1. This site uses cookies. By continuing to use this site, you are agreeing to our use of cookies. Learn More.

Brexit

Discussion in 'Politics' started by prwales, Feb 19, 2016.

  1. Craiglxviii

    Craiglxviii Senior Member

    Messages:
    9,463
    Likes Received:
    965
    Joined:
    Sep 6, 2015
    Location:
    Cambs UK
    Your Mercedes:
    W215 CL500 Garage Queen; W212 E220 AMG Night Edition; W211 E320 Avantgarde Estate Designo Edition
    Don't hold back chap, say what you really think.

    And yes, couldn't agree more, a loathsome man.
     
  2. triumphstag

    triumphstag Senior Member

    Messages:
    499
    Likes Received:
    52
    Joined:
    Sep 28, 2013
    Location:
    Surrey, UK
    Your Mercedes:
    SL 500 (2002) R230
    I can't do that, I would get banned (or break the swear filter) :)

    Apparently he was paid for that speaking engagement as well!!!!
     
  3. Craiglxviii

    Craiglxviii Senior Member

    Messages:
    9,463
    Likes Received:
    965
    Joined:
    Sep 6, 2015
    Location:
    Cambs UK
    Your Mercedes:
    W215 CL500 Garage Queen; W212 E220 AMG Night Edition; W211 E320 Avantgarde Estate Designo Edition
    You don't think he'd do it for free do you?

    £100k for 40 minutes work listening to the sound of your own voice, Christ if SWMBO had that job we'd be millionaires without her having to pause for breath.
     
  4. triumphstag

    triumphstag Senior Member

    Messages:
    499
    Likes Received:
    52
    Joined:
    Sep 28, 2013
    Location:
    Surrey, UK
    Your Mercedes:
    SL 500 (2002) R230
    :)

    £100K ??? Seems to have halved his rates then. Times must be tough. He is worth £60m, and we still have to pay for protection services for the warmongering pillock.
     
  5. malcolm210

    malcolm210 Senior Member

    Messages:
    2,494
    Likes Received:
    63
    Joined:
    Aug 21, 2005
    Seems to me that TB thinks that a Plebiscite isn't worth the paper it's written on but then again so do half the political class, whatever happened to democracy, if we"d been consulted before Major signed the Maastricht Treaty without a public mandate we wouldn't be in this mess
     
  6. AMGeed

    AMGeed Senior Member

    Messages:
    3,517
    Likes Received:
    322
    Joined:
    Jan 18, 2009
    Location:
    Poole, Dorset
    Your Mercedes:
    2004 W211 E55K ///AMG
    Bliar has the knife out for the current Labour party without doubt. He probably sees himself as their saviour he is that deluded.

    He may be a lot of things, but he knows a party that is dying on its ar$e if nothing else. UKIP stand a good chance of beating Labour. That should tell Corbyn his time is up.
     
  7. EmilysDad

    EmilysDad Senior Member

    Messages:
    4,877
    Likes Received:
    165
    Joined:
    May 8, 2012
    Location:
    Bury Lancs
    Your Mercedes:
    R320 2007
    Which is another reason he doesn't want to get off the gravy train
     
  8. coxyhog

    coxyhog Senior Member

    Messages:
    340
    Likes Received:
    16
    Joined:
    Mar 26, 2008
    Location:
    Hertfordshire
    Your Mercedes:
    E500 Sport Coupe
    Blair campaigning against Brexit could be one big own goal for the remainers as I don't think there is a more hated man in the UK,outside of the usual kiddie fiddlers etc.
     
  9. OP
    prwales

    prwales Banned

    Messages:
    1,123
    Likes Received:
    1
    Joined:
    Dec 31, 2007
    Location:
    South Wales
    Your Mercedes:
    ge300, w124 300e, various VW's
    not with the Nutter as its leader and as the Stoke candidate, dream on
     
  10. dry run

    dry run Senior Member

    Messages:
    252
    Likes Received:
    13
    Joined:
    Aug 1, 2014
    Location:
    Portsmouth
    Your Mercedes:
    2008 E320 CDI Sport tiptronic
    Possibly true, but there again, Trump was never going to win, Brexit was never going to happen, etc, etc...............
     
  11. LostKiwi

    LostKiwi Senior Member

    Messages:
    6,656
    Likes Received:
    1,428
    Joined:
    Aug 25, 2006
    Location:
    Midlands, not east or west but middle.
    Your Mercedes:
    '93 500SL-32, '01 W210 Estate E240, 02 R230 SL500, 04 Smart Roadster Coupe
    The only way UKIP will win is if the same mechanisms that came into play in the US elections come into play here.

    Too many people view UKIP as a step too far.
    (why are they even here now - they got what they wanted with Brexit?)
     
  12. Craiglxviii

    Craiglxviii Senior Member

    Messages:
    9,463
    Likes Received:
    965
    Joined:
    Sep 6, 2015
    Location:
    Cambs UK
    Your Mercedes:
    W215 CL500 Garage Queen; W212 E220 AMG Night Edition; W211 E320 Avantgarde Estate Designo Edition
    Because the desire for power is greater than the desire to achieve a limited goal. The goal becomes power in and of itself.

    Remember, "Power corrupts and absolute power is really, really cool."
     
  13. M80

    M80 Senior Member

    Messages:
    2,486
    Likes Received:
    132
    Joined:
    Jan 21, 2006
    Location:
    Derbyshire
    Your Mercedes:
    Vito115 ExLWB (07)
    Not there yet. IMHO a force that is monitoring the proceedings and willing to speak out against the likely reversals ahead is needed. Trouble is I'm not sure Nattall has what Farage 'had'.
     
  14. OP
    prwales

    prwales Banned

    Messages:
    1,123
    Likes Received:
    1
    Joined:
    Dec 31, 2007
    Location:
    South Wales
    Your Mercedes:
    ge300, w124 300e, various VW's
  15. PovertySpec

    PovertySpec Senior Member

    Messages:
    991
    Likes Received:
    18
    Joined:
    Mar 12, 2014
    Location:
    Hampshire
    Your Mercedes:
    E220 CDi 07/57
    The apple cart does indeed need upsetting and it's been partially upset but Nuttall? In the houses of parliament as an MP? With his reputation? Surely not! :lol:

    Part of me doesn't want to see that happen for obvious reasons but another part of me really does. Not because I want his style of politics to succeed (it won't) but because the other MPs would make mincemeat out of him and it would be a proper spectacle.

    Labour are a mess, disliked due to the hospital trust failings. The greens nowhere to be seen and the Tories can forget it.

    What if Stoke does vote him in? Who's fault would that be?
     
    Last edited: Feb 21, 2017
  16. gizze

    gizze Senior Member

    Messages:
    2,545
    Likes Received:
    7
    Joined:
    Sep 2, 2008
    Location:
    Norfolk
    Your Mercedes:
    E350 cgi Estate & Range Rover TDV8
    Well, Radio 5 was in Stoke this morning with all the candidates and locals and Nutall seemed to be getting the biggest cheers every time he answered.

    Remember 87% of Stoke voted leave, so when you get the answer to "How do we fix the NHS?" and Nutall says "It's easy, the NHS is running a deficit of around £1.8b a year, we are spending £16b on foreign aid, as a party we would reduce the amount of foreign aid to make sure people here in the UK have a health system that works."
    Huge round of applause.


    Don't write UKIP off, if anything Brexit has shown people that they are not alone, or wrong, or evil, to want to look after their country first. Whether you agree with that or not is irrelevant.
     
  17. OP
    prwales

    prwales Banned

    Messages:
    1,123
    Likes Received:
    1
    Joined:
    Dec 31, 2007
    Location:
    South Wales
    Your Mercedes:
    ge300, w124 300e, various VW's
  18. dry run

    dry run Senior Member

    Messages:
    252
    Likes Received:
    13
    Joined:
    Aug 1, 2014
    Location:
    Portsmouth
    Your Mercedes:
    2008 E320 CDI Sport tiptronic
    How so PR?

    Our court, our law, our decision!

    What would be undesireable is that the court rules in the government's favour and then the claimants appeal to the European court who rule against us!
     
  19. Craiglxviii

    Craiglxviii Senior Member

    Messages:
    9,463
    Likes Received:
    965
    Joined:
    Sep 6, 2015
    Location:
    Cambs UK
    Your Mercedes:
    W215 CL500 Garage Queen; W212 E220 AMG Night Edition; W211 E320 Avantgarde Estate Designo Edition
    In one way it's a tricky one. Where does the limit get drawn on marrying a foreigner and bringing them here to live? If it's income, then at what point is the new migrant/ citizen most likely to be a net contributor to, and not a net drain on the economy?
     
  20. LostKiwi

    LostKiwi Senior Member

    Messages:
    6,656
    Likes Received:
    1,428
    Joined:
    Aug 25, 2006
    Location:
    Midlands, not east or west but middle.
    Your Mercedes:
    '93 500SL-32, '01 W210 Estate E240, 02 R230 SL500, 04 Smart Roadster Coupe

Share This Page