Discussion in 'Politics' started by prwales, Feb 19, 2016.
Don't hold back chap, say what you really think.
And yes, couldn't agree more, a loathsome man.
I can't do that, I would get banned (or break the swear filter)
Apparently he was paid for that speaking engagement as well!!!!
You don't think he'd do it for free do you?
£100k for 40 minutes work listening to the sound of your own voice, Christ if SWMBO had that job we'd be millionaires without her having to pause for breath.
£100K ??? Seems to have halved his rates then. Times must be tough. He is worth £60m, and we still have to pay for protection services for the warmongering pillock.
Seems to me that TB thinks that a Plebiscite isn't worth the paper it's written on but then again so do half the political class, whatever happened to democracy, if we"d been consulted before Major signed the Maastricht Treaty without a public mandate we wouldn't be in this mess
Bliar has the knife out for the current Labour party without doubt. He probably sees himself as their saviour he is that deluded.
He may be a lot of things, but he knows a party that is dying on its ar$e if nothing else. UKIP stand a good chance of beating Labour. That should tell Corbyn his time is up.
Which is another reason he doesn't want to get off the gravy train
Blair campaigning against Brexit could be one big own goal for the remainers as I don't think there is a more hated man in the UK,outside of the usual kiddie fiddlers etc.
not with the Nutter as its leader and as the Stoke candidate, dream on
Possibly true, but there again, Trump was never going to win, Brexit was never going to happen, etc, etc...............
The only way UKIP will win is if the same mechanisms that came into play in the US elections come into play here.
Too many people view UKIP as a step too far.
(why are they even here now - they got what they wanted with Brexit?)
Because the desire for power is greater than the desire to achieve a limited goal. The goal becomes power in and of itself.
Remember, "Power corrupts and absolute power is really, really cool."
Not there yet. IMHO a force that is monitoring the proceedings and willing to speak out against the likely reversals ahead is needed. Trouble is I'm not sure Nattall has what Farage 'had'.
Stoke like Liverpool is a football town, I can't see many men voting for Nuttall, his behaviour and that of UKIP's owner is unforgivable
The apple cart does indeed need upsetting and it's been partially upset but Nuttall? In the houses of parliament as an MP? With his reputation? Surely not! :lol:
Part of me doesn't want to see that happen for obvious reasons but another part of me really does. Not because I want his style of politics to succeed (it won't) but because the other MPs would make mincemeat out of him and it would be a proper spectacle.
Labour are a mess, disliked due to the hospital trust failings. The greens nowhere to be seen and the Tories can forget it.
What if Stoke does vote him in? Who's fault would that be?
Well, Radio 5 was in Stoke this morning with all the candidates and locals and Nutall seemed to be getting the biggest cheers every time he answered.
Remember 87% of Stoke voted leave, so when you get the answer to "How do we fix the NHS?" and Nutall says "It's easy, the NHS is running a deficit of around £1.8b a year, we are spending £16b on foreign aid, as a party we would reduce the amount of foreign aid to make sure people here in the UK have a health system that works."
Huge round of applause.
Don't write UKIP off, if anything Brexit has shown people that they are not alone, or wrong, or evil, to want to look after their country first. Whether you agree with that or not is irrelevant.
if this Supreme Court decision on income levels of would be spousal migrants wins it will render Brexit a joke
How so PR?
Our court, our law, our decision!
What would be undesireable is that the court rules in the government's favour and then the claimants appeal to the European court who rule against us!
In one way it's a tricky one. Where does the limit get drawn on marrying a foreigner and bringing them here to live? If it's income, then at what point is the new migrant/ citizen most likely to be a net contributor to, and not a net drain on the economy?
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