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Fell into engine

Discussion in 'Engine, Drivetrain, Fuel and Exhaust' started by alexanderfoti, Mar 13, 2018.

  1. alexanderfoti

    alexanderfoti MBO Forum Supporter

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    1 x o ring and 1x pintle cap (pastic), fell past slightly open inlet manifolds when removing the fuel rail. How important is it that they are removed.

    The o ring is an o ring. The pintle cap is a flat plastic piece approx 5mm in diameter:

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    I have managed to locate it with a borescope through the spark plug hole but not had much luck in removing it. Its located in such a place where I cannot see it and use a tool to remote it.

    I tried a rubber hose on a hoover and manged to pick it up, but then dropped it again.
     
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    Potentially catastrophic engine damage lies ahead... there was a guy on here with a CL55 that had billowing white smoke, you may remember? Think that.
     
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    You can get hook attachments for your borescope I believe Alex which might be the answer- suppose they might blow through and burn up if they were smaller but not sure on that size?
     
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    Tried that, its not steerable and the viewing angle is too shallow to see enough.
     
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    Rings a bell.
     
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    Your playing Russian ruellette with your engine if not removed.
     
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    Try some 8mm copper pipe duck taped to the Hoover. It will be more 'steerable' than rubber hose.

    Tip. To make the copper pipe easier to bend/shape. Heat it first with a blow lamp to a Cherry red, and then dunk into water.
     
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    All it needs to do is lodge under a valve head and things will touch in a way that won't be good....

    Wind the engine round by hand so the cylinder with the part in it is near TDC with a valve open then hit it with a vacuum over the plug hole.
     
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    Vacuum method needs to be refined and persevered with...
     
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    Thin wire with some duct tape reverse rolled around the wire and inserted into hole , then Hoover the ring towards the tape with Hoover vacuum ?
     
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    They are all good theories but I now am unable to see where they are with the camera at all. Tried blowing around with compressed air, no luck.

    Im going to try a wider angle boroscope and a bit of brake line shaped to size I think.
     
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    Without knowing which part of the stroke the cylinder was at, it could have had a valve open so it could now be at the air intake or moved to the exhaust.
     
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    I have located it again, by setting piston to btc. I will attempt to retrieve it at a later point when my will to stand out in the cold has come back.
     
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    You could also coat the end of a bit of brake pipe with contact adhesive in the hope it will grab the bits.
     
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    Funny you mention that, that was my last method. I will browse the internet for tiny metal picker uppers and see if anything exists.
     
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    Great minds and all that :)
     
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    If its rubber and plastic turn the engine so the valves on the cylinder the bits are in are closed
    then use a gas torch in the plug hole and burn off the bits in there then blow out the particle remains.
     
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    Could do with a key hole surgeon Alex....I had my gall bladder removed last year in such a way :rolleyes:
     
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