General Election...June 8

[AMGeed]

You are absolutely serious about paying people peanuts and giving them 3 square meals a day so that they can fill potholes so that you and all other motorists can drive safely on our roads...

So in your Labour controlled fantasy world, jobseekers should just turn up, sign on and wait for their benefit money to hit their bank every week/month or whatever without lifting a finger to earn it?

I'm afraid it is attitudes like this that lazy b@stards have picked up on and my blood boils to see them getting honest taxpayers money without earning it.

It needs someone with a backbone in the Dept of Work and Pensions to tell these workshy spongers they will be required to do temporary work until finding full time employment if they refuse 3 job offers.

Oh, and to save another post about your hero, this is the terrorist sympathiser you want to run our country? You have to be mad to think so.

 

[Xtractorfan]

Agreed there are people who believe that benefits are there to support them all through life, but they are not a majority and would never be a drain on the system, we can all tell stories about the ones that don't want a particular job. There again they are in a very small minority.
At the moment the Tories are doing exactly what you guys are talking about. If you are on the unemployment register for more than 13 weeks, you will be sent on a work scheme .. mandatory.. otherwise you lose benefits, and that basically is doing anything from gardening to stocking shelves for an extra £15 per week .. Where do you think that Cameron and his cronies including Teresa May are getting their 'millions of jobs created' from.
As for the creating a workforce from the unemployed, it worked well during depressions back in the day when there was massive unemployment and a need for radical change and thinking to feed a starving population. No doubt it saved many from starvation and death. It lasted for almost ten years so something had to be done about it.
It would be a retrograde step to even consider such a scheme. And all of us talking about our own work ethic, and subsequent doing well in life, does not give any of us the right to decide that others who are less well off, should slave to better themselves by being giving a choice of working for a tiny survival wage just so they can make ends meet.

 

[Xtractorfan]

There are lazy layabouts no doubt, and you don't like them, but there are lots who are out of work because of friends of yours and the Tory government that you support. This guy also had a hand in helping a lot of the sick and helpless people in our society to take control of their lives, many of whom committed suicide because they couldn't see a future for themselves. Yet you don't mind supporting him and his cronies.
http://metro.co.uk/2015/08/24/work-...ims-to-cut-benefits-for-mentally-ill-5358316/
No doubt your Jermey Clip came from the Sun who would have reported it exactly as Rupert Murdoch would have told them to.
You didn't report how the support of people like Jeremy Corbyn brought those people into the peace process and brought about a very changed society for all of us. No because you listen to the Teresa May and the Nigel Farage version, which is full of rhetoric and bile and very short on Fact.

 

[triumphstag]

Agreed there are people who believe that benefits are there to support them all through life, but they are not a majority and would never be a drain on the system, we can all tell stories about the ones that don't want a particular job. There again they are in a very small minority.
At the moment the Tories are doing exactly what you guys are talking about. If you are on the unemployment register for more than 13 weeks, you will be sent on a work scheme .. mandatory.. otherwise you lose benefits, and that basically is doing anything from gardening to stocking shelves for an extra £15 per week .. Where do you think that Cameron and his cronies including Teresa May are getting their 'millions of jobs created' from.
As for the creating a workforce from the unemployed, it worked well during depressions back in the day when there was massive unemployment and a need for radical change and thinking to feed a starving population. No doubt it saved many from starvation and death. It lasted for almost ten years so something had to be done about it.
It would be a retrograde step to even consider such a scheme. And all of us talking about our own work ethic, and subsequent doing well in life, does not give any of us the right to decide that others who are less well off, should slave to better themselves by being giving a choice of working for a tiny survival wage just so they can make ends meet.

So what is your magic solution oh enlightened one?

*Sits back and gets comfortable*

This should be good.....

 

[C350Carl]

No doubt your Jermey Clip came from the Sun who would have reported it exactly as Rupert Murdoch would have told them to.
You didn't report how the support of people like Jeremy Corbyn brought those people into the peace process and brought about a very changed society for all of us. No because you listen to the Teresa May and the Nigel Farage version, which is full of rhetoric and bile and very short on Fact.

Actually it was the Sunday Express.

What's your excuse for him point blank refusing to condemn the actions of the IRA et al FIVE times during an interview with Stephen Nolan then?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p02z3x45

 

[Craiglxviii]

Actually it was the Sunday Express.

What's your excuse for him point blank refusing to condemn the actions of the IRA et al FIVE times during an interview with Stephen Nolan then?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p02z3x45

Erm... he was on the Provos side?

My understanding of PIRA et al coming to the negotiating table is that:

a) British security forces had beaten them squarely in the field.
b) British intelligence forces had compromised their communications networks.
c) their major sources of funding and arms were compromised through various means, not least the collapse of the USSR.

So coming to the table was the only viable option for them, regardless of the "efforts" that Comrade Corbyn was making on their behalf. Brave warriors fearlessly combatting the faceless Imperialists- as Corbyn views it.

 

[Yugguy]

Less well off? At risk of sounding like Monty python, I did grow up on a council estate and we had absolutely **** all money. Didn't have an inside toilet or bath til I was 4.

Slavery is your word, we are talking about useful, paid and dare I say fulfilling work.

 

[Craiglxviii]

Less well off? At risk of sounding like Monty python, I did grow up on a council estate and we had absolutely **** all money. Didn't have an inside toilet or bath til I was 4.

Slavery is your word, we are talking about useful, paid and dare I say fulfilling work.

What do you know you capitalist pig?

I didn't grow up on a council estate, we owned our own home and also had FA money until I was about 18-19...

 

[Yugguy]

FA? I'm guessing that doesn't mean the football association? (;->

 

[Craiglxviii]

FA? I'm guessing that doesn't mean the football association? (;->

I wish....... two very hard working parents, amazing parents who did (and still do) their very best for their sons. But money was damn tight.

 

[C350Carl]

I didn't grow up on a council estate, we owned our own home and also had FA money until I was about 18-19...

Pretty much the same here. Although at one point i had a lunch pass as my dad was laid off work for 5mths and my mum couldn't get anything other than a job as a dinner lady at a local primary school.

 

[triumphstag]

What do you know you capitalist pig?

I didn't grow up on a council estate, we owned our own home and also had FA money until I was about 18-19...

You privileged sod.... owning your own home, owning your own home. How very dare you.

We were in the middle. We owned our own home on a council estate. My dad was a sheetmetalworker and was a hard worker but got made redundant a couple of times.

When I was a child i asked him what "being on the dole meant. He told me that it meant working for the government and when I asked him what he did for this he actually told me that he had to go to places and do jobs whilst I was at school. It wasn't true but he didn't want to admit his son that he was relying on the state to support his family.

Thankfully he did manage to get other jobs because he was very good at what he did, but I will always remember that.

 

[LostKiwi]

WHern I was born my parents were living in a RNZN flat (1st photo - this is four flats).
We later moved to Dunmurray (near Belfast to an RNZN rented property before moving to Gosport to another RNZN rented property.
On our return to NZ we were put into a succession of RNZN 3 bed detached houses like the second one below (this was the one I remember most). I was 13 when my parents were finally in a position to buy their own house in 1973 when dad left the navy and used part of his pension (third photo).
The last house recently sold for NZD1.4million (around £600k Sterling!).

We never had a lot of money but I had a fabulous childhood.

 

[C350Carl]

It is true what they say that money can't buy happiness.

I had a happy childhood and I have a happy life now. Yes there's ups and downs.

But on the whole I'm healthy, my wife and children are & I have a relatively good job.

Could always earn more money and would be nice to. But not a necessity.

 

[drmw]

A casual observation.

No Government gets it all right, so there will always be people who voted for them and people who voted for someone else, all unhappy at the way things are going.

The majority of politicians of all persuasions do mean well and genuinely think they are doing the best for their constituents, no matter how deluded they might seem to others.

There are always exceptions and those who have their own agendas but by and large the above is the case - a fact of life that some seem to have difficulty grasping.

It’s really easy to criticise but a lot more difficult to come up with constructive alternatives as is seen during any coverage of the House of Commons. I find it quite tedious but can do nothing about it.

So - why don’t those on this forum who appear to have the intellectual capacity to do so start making suggestions, rather than make continuous vitriolic, meaningless attacks?

There’s even the possibility it might change people’s perceptions of members who sometimes seem to exist only to argue and inflict their extremist political mantras.

 

[malcolm E53 AMG]

The political class is what it is and I'm sure they are well vetted by their political elders before they are nominated to stand for parliament and in turn they mean well and in general do try to make a difference.

Where the system seems to be going wrong to me relates to the civil service, they are not elected and generally not in the public eye but their role is extremely important to the mechanism of government.

Take the diesel/Nox fiasco as an example, it was patently obvious to most people 20 years ago that Diesel engines were not clean enough to be built in large numbers due to particulate and Nitrogen Dioxide emissions but that's where we have ended up due in large part to the out dated type emission test on new vehicles. It would be very naive to think that vehicle manufacturers would not try claim better figures than were achievable and up to the Ministry of Transport to police this but they needed to update the test and they have failed miserably on this.

Until the performance of some areas of the civil service improve and are fit for purpose nothing will improve and we will all carry on banging on about politicians and how they have failed us, the problem in my view lies deeper than that on some issues

 

[JBell]

Not scary at all!!!!!!!!!!

 

[LostKiwi]

Well she couldn't make much more of a hash of it than Theresa!

 

[JBell]

Well she couldn't make much more of a hash of it than Theresa!

At least she knows that a Police officer earns more than £30 a year!!!!

 

[Craiglxviii]

Well she couldn't make much more of a hash of it than Theresa!

Oh I think she could make a very good fist of it. She can't tell the difference between 250, 2,500 and 250,000... and that's without being totally doolally tap...