Is there any point in a 2 bucket wash if you do a long pre-clean?

[keefysher]

I use the 'rinse' bucket and a sponge to do the wheels after the bodywork

 

[Capra]

I use the 'rinse' bucket and a sponge to do the wheels after the bodywork

When I did the first 2 bucket method I also had older orange bucket that I used for wheels. I just got into the practice of using the 3rd all the time, until the last when I couldn't be bothered to fill it and used the one of the others.

 

[John Laidlaw]

Any reason to not use one of the others once you have finished the bodywork?

I leave it dedicated to the wheels so as not to transfer any iron deposits to places they shouldn’t be. Bit anal to be honest but makes me feel better

 

[John Laidlaw]

I use the 'rinse' bucket and a sponge to do the wheels after the bodywork

Dear dear- ‘sponge’ eh.....try 2 wheel brushes and a microfibre covered sponge why don’t you

 

[AnthonyUK]

..Bit anal to be honest but makes me feel better

You probably have more chance of winning the lottery than transferring anything but at least you recognise it for what it is

 

[John Laidlaw]

You probably have more chance of winning the lottery than transferring anything but at least you recognise it for what it is

Yip...condom syndrome

 

[Blobcat]

Surface Water Drainage is the biggest challenge to the water companies. Unfortunately public apathy is something the WCs rely upon.

Check your bills to see where they charge for SWD where you have soakaways and no run off to the WC drains. Highway drains are covered in the Council Tax that you pay for. Very few SWD drainage schemes have been built since the war

This part of the country has natural aquifers, in the chalk where the water goes to.

Billions owed to joe public, but you can only claim for 12 years. Per household it's only tens of pounds per year, but over decades and number of households it adds up, phenomenal amount of money owed

I took your advice and challenged Yorkshire Water, they've just checked my drains with dye and my surface water isn't connected to the sewer so bill to be updated and refund for me

Great forum this

 

[keefysher]

I took your advice and challenged Yorkshire Water, they've just checked my drains with dye and my surface water isn't connected to the sewer so bill to be updated and refund for me

Great forum this

They probably already knew, but went through the motions to put you off claiming. Records were kept in the public utility days, legacy systems have been left to die in the private water companies. Tell your neighbours and get them to claim.

Recent house purchase, if a good solicitor does the conveyancing should pick this up too. Wonder if a claim can be made against solicitors who don't pick it up??

Perhaps I should have put a 'commission' on my advice

 

[John Laidlaw]

They probably already knew, but went through the motions to put you off claiming. Records were kept in the public utility days, legacy systems have been left to die in the private water companies. Tell your neighbours and get them to claim.

Recent house purchase, if a good solicitor does the conveyancing should pick this up too. Wonder if a claim can be made against solicitors who don't pick it up??

Perhaps I should have put a 'commission' on my advice

Where there’s blame......

 

[keefysher]

Where there’s blame......

No blame in respect of SWD, John. The water cos have been charging people for something they shouldn't have been charged for. In some worlds that is a criminal offence called fraud.

Perhaps you've been too long in the land of the claim, I moved away as a kid

 

[John Laidlaw]

No blame in respect of SWD, John. The water cos have been charging people for something they shouldn't have been charged for. In some worlds that is a criminal offence called fraud.

Perhaps you've been too long in the land of the claim, I moved away as a kid

I did live in New Brighton for 6 months or “compoland’ as it’s known locally- maybe that was it Keith?
I was thinking of your comments re : conveyancing slipper, sorry solicitor

 

[Capra]

No blame in respect of SWD, John. The water cos have been charging people for something they shouldn't have been charged for. In some worlds that is a criminal offence called fraud.

Perhaps you've been too long in the land of the claim, I moved away as a kid

If you pay for surface water to down the drains it should be on the utility bill.

 

[Blobcat]

They probably already knew, but went through the motions to put you off claiming. Records were kept in the public utility days, legacy systems have been left to die in the private water companies. Tell your neighbours and get them to claim.

Recent house purchase, if a good solicitor does the conveyancing should pick this up too. Wonder if a claim can be made against solicitors who don't pick it up??

Perhaps I should have put a 'commission' on my advice

To prove a solicitor is in the wrong you’ve got to prove everyone else isn’t first.

I’ll stand you a pint of finest Yorkshire Water (once my refund comes through)

 

[keefysher]

If you pay for surface water to down the drains it should be on the utility bill.

If you pay for surface water drainage on your utility (water company) bill, that water should go down the drains served by the water company, not the highway drains that are charged for in your County Council component of your Council Tax bill.

Unfortunately a phenomenal amount of properties do not have drainage that takes surface water away. The usual method is via soakaways, for which you should not pay a surface water drainage charge.

The water companies know full well what assets they have in the ground, somewhere in dusty boxes stored away, or their legacy asset register system (possibly IMPART or MIMS to name 2); and they know what properties have been built not connected to their assets in the ground, it ain't difficult. That housing development was proposed, planned, approved and built with the involvement of the water company to meet its statutory requirement to supply water and take away sewerage (black water). With the roll out of water meters they know where they supply water to, and how much. They know how much comes back through the sewers. They know rainfall, where, when, how much and its respondent effect on their assets to deal with flood risk etc.

Reliance on public apathy to not claim payment back for what should not have been paid is their MO. Its billions.

 

[keefysher]

I’ll stand you a pint of finest Yorkshire Water (once my refund comes through)

Spoken like a true tightwad

 

[LostKiwi]

To prove a solicitor is in the wrong you’ve got to prove everyone else isn’t first.

Funny isn't it. Soliciting is illegal yet to be a solicitor is highly regarded....

 

[Capra]

If you pay for surface water drainage on your utility (water company) bill, that water should go down the drains served by the water company, not the highway drains that are charged for in your County Council component of your Council Tax bill.

Unfortunately a phenomenal amount of properties do not have drainage that takes surface water away. The usual method is via soakaways, for which you should not pay a surface water drainage charge.

The water companies know full well what assets they have in the ground, somewhere in dusty boxes stored away, or their legacy asset register system (possibly IMPART or MIMS to name 2); and they know what properties have been built not connected to their assets in the ground, it ain't difficult. That housing development was proposed, planned, approved and built with the involvement of the water company to meet its statutory requirement to supply water and take away sewerage (black water). With the roll out of water meters they know where they supply water to, and how much. They know how much comes back through the sewers. They know rainfall, where, when, how much and its respondent effect on their assets to deal with flood risk etc.

Reliance on public apathy to not claim payment back for what should not have been paid is their MO. Its billions.

Interesting, do you know why drainage attached to homes was moved from private ownership to public, was it to save us with hefty bills? Or did this change only effect curtain water companies?

 

[keefysher]

Funny isn't it. Soliciting is illegal yet to be a solicitor is highly regarded....

and when they get promoted to barista they get to make coffee for punters

 

[C350Carl]

To be honest, even as someone who does detailing (well did whilst I was in the UK, bit busy over here) if you're careful enough and don't drag the mitt around the bottom of the bucket then you have a reduced the chance of dragging carp around the bodywork.

That said, if you're unsure of the benefit then wash the car using the 2BM and have a look at the state of the mitt rinse water at the end. If it's clean then your pre-wash is doing a great job. If it's not however.....

 

[Craiglxviii]

To be honest, even as someone who does detailing (well did whilst I was in the UK, bit busy over here) if you're careful enough and don't drag the mitt around the bottom of the bucket then you have a reduced the chance of dragging carp around the bodywork.

That said, if you're unsure of the benefit then wash the car using the 2BM and have a look at the state of the mitt rinse water at the end. If it's clean then your pre-wash is doing a great job. If it's not however.....

Oi, we are talking about drainage scams here, get back on thread