Jeremy Corbyn.

[Yugguy]

Oh aye, because the Labour one was so much better. Corbyn himself admitted the sums did not add up.

 

[flowrider]

Standard fare, critise the Conservatives whilst forgetting Labours manifesto was fiction. They may have had costings but no practical mention of where the money was coming from other than borow, borrow and more borrowing so that all the austerity we have been through will have been for nothing. Its a rediculous cycle, Labour racks up massive debts, Conservatives try to bring the debt under control only for Labour to then rack up more debt. Corbyn needs to stop listening to Diane Abbotts version of budgets!

 

[Frontstep]

I like Jeremy the aged mellowed anarchist, his rebellious past now looks liked the patina on an old weapon with its edges dulled and will it won't it fire ?
Like an old dog you wonder are his biting days over, would you leave him with your young children ?
Probably spins a great yarn in the pub and nice to his neighbours,
but really when you close your eyes do you imagine him striding the international stage and heaven forfend leading us into war ?
Negotiating with Barnier, Trump, Jinping,Putin,
May doesn't exactly set the heart racing but Jeremy yikes there isn't enough single malt in the world to get me to actually vote for him.

 

[Xtractorfan]

Standard fare, critise the Conservatives whilst forgetting Labours manifesto was fiction. They may have had costings but no practical mention of where the money was coming from other than borow, borrow and more borrowing so that all the austerity we have been through will have been for nothing. Its a rediculous cycle, Labour racks up massive debts, Conservatives try to bring the debt under control only for Labour to then rack up more debt. Corbyn needs to stop listening to Diane Abbotts version of budgets!

Its not really Dianne Abbot who needs the lesson in Economics. Once again I need to tell you that you also have a distorted view of economic history...You are quoting verbatim the Tory Party line on this.. In actual fact Conservative Governments borrow more and pay back less then Labour governments.. seriously check it out.

 

[Xtractorfan]

I like Jeremy the aged mellowed anarchist, his rebellious past now looks liked the patina on an old weapon with its edges dulled and will it won't it fire ?
Like an old dog you wonder are his biting days over, would you leave him with your young children ?
Probably spins a great yarn in the pub and nice to his neighbours,
but really when you close your eyes do you imagine him striding the international stage and heaven forfend leading us into war ?
Negotiating with Barnier, Trump, Jinping,Putin,
May doesn't exactly set the heart racing but Jeremy yikes there isn't enough single malt in the world to get me to actually vote for him.

Yes can see where you are coming from here, problem is the younger more wiser voters cannot see it this way. They do see Jeremy as someone who could make this country great again.

 

[flowrider]

Its not really Dianne Abbot who needs the lesson in Economics. Once again I need to tell you that you also have a distorted view of economic history...You are quoting verbatim the Tory Party line on this.. In actual fact Conservative Governments borrow more and pay back less then Labour governments.. seriously check it out.

You are correct but looked at as a percentage of GDP then Conservatives have borrowed more within our means.

 

[AMGeed]

Its not really Dianne Abbot who needs the lesson in Economics. Once again I need to tell you that you also have a distorted view of economic history...You are quoting verbatim the Tory Party line on this.. In actual fact Conservative Governments borrow more and pay back less then Labour governments.. seriously check it out.

You seem oblivious to how much the Labour governments of Blair and Brown put the country in deeper debt.
There is no hiding the fact the Conservatives have borrowed more, but dread to think how much more again the borrowing would have been under Brown and Labour.
Brown borrowed into the future too, expecting receipts to rise, but its conveniently forgotten?
UK net borrowing has fallen annually as a % of GDP.

https://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2015/04/the-truth-about-labour-and-overspending/

And how Brown failed spectacularly to control borrowing. An old piece at the time of the financial crash
https://www.spectator.co.uk/2008/09/the-great-debt-deceit-how-gordon-brown-cooked-the-nations-books/

 

[AMGeed]

Yes can see where you are coming from here, problem is the younger more gullible voters cannot see it this way. They do mistakenly see Jeremy as someone who could make this country great again.

FTFY

 

[Xtractorfan]

Brilliant so when you do some fact finding you are directed to the Spectator... The Sun would have been a bit risky, but the Conservative Spectator always gives you the facts as told to it By the Tory party...
Here you will find another angle on it so when researching items from history never go for the one sided story to fit your teams policies.
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/ramesh-patel/finally-the-overspending-_b_7591088.html

 

[coxyhog]

Huff post is as Left as the Spec is right.

 

[triumphstag]

Huffington post????? Oh deary me. Even Corbyn isn't that far left.

 

[AMGeed]

You'll have to do better than the Huffington post.
The Morning Star is more believeable than that source.

 

[Craiglxviii]

Say again Ed? I couldn’t hear you over the sound of the Internationale...

 

[Yugguy]

Huffington, Poke, they're as left as my left knacker, but yes we can all slip into confirmation bias.

X, the point is that those of us who may vote Tory are still well aware of their failings. We are not actually stupid despite your constant claims we are.

Whereas you come across as believing Labour can do no wrong and that the sun shines out of Jeremy's backside.

Which is why noone takes your comments seriously.

 

[davemercedes]

It's all well and good decrying people who believe in Corbyn etc but on the other hand can you believe in Mayhem and her lot?

It's funny really... when the Labour MPs were all resigning and trying to get rid of Corbyn it was my opinion that he had condemned them (Labour) to obscurity for another six or seven years. But Mayhem's manner, the cabinet in-fighting and her stupid election call made a lot of people reconsider.

Just as Trump becoming POTUS was an unlikely long shot, so is the likelihood of Corbyn becoming PM. But Trump DID become POTUS so who knows? Analysts say it was predominantly the young vote that nearly lost her the election and far from rolling over, I think they will be encourage to go for it again when they can. The young voter instinctively mistrusts the Tory party - much more than ever before. I guess that's why the likelihood of a another election is another long shot because the current lot know they'd at best have a repeat of another hung parliament or worse probably lose hands down. And if Mayhem thinks giving them back some of their Uni fees will buy her some votes, she has another think coming!

- But unfortunately for all of us, when another election finally happens, it will be just more of the "same old thing" - i.e.: voting for the best of a lousy choice! That's very sad, really.

 

[JBell]

Analysts say it was predominantly the young vote that nearly lost her the election and far from rolling over, I think they will be encourage to go for it again when they can. The young voter instinctively mistrusts the Tory party - much more than ever before.

It was Jeremy opening his big bag of sweeties to tempt students with free stuff that got them voting for him

 

[davemercedes]

It was Jeremy opening his big bag of sweeties to tempt students with free stuff that got them voting for him

I don't think that's all there is to it. Young people are very disillusioned with politics in general and all the utter hypocrisy. But if ever any party deserved the "Nasty Party" title, it's the Tories. They started off slamming c£10K pa Uni fees on them (don't forget that almost all MPs who have a degree now will have been educated on a grant (which was justified because their degrees enabled them to earn more so they would pay more tax etc) and then they stung them with a quite disgraceful 6.1% interest on top. They have also seen the austerity cuts all round which are still mostly the result of bank mismanagement and in the same breath they heard how it was essential to keep up the bankers terms otherwise "all these talented people will go elsewhere" (thinking about it that could be a very good thing for UK in many ways!). And in the meantime they heard stories of nurses on their 1% annual wage review having to go to food banks etc.

- And that's only the tip of their particular iceberg.

 

[Yugguy]

It's all well and good decrying people who believe in Corbyn etc but on the other hand can you believe in Mayhem and her lot?

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I don't blindly believe them. As I said I am well aware of the Tories' faults. And I think you're right in that it'll be who you think is least worst.

Youth as whole is generally left-wing. Usually because they haven't got anything and think Labour will give it to them. The older generation as a whole is generally right-wing, as they HAVE got something and they want to keep it.

 

[Alfie]

Jeremy is a walking disaster zone. He has fired 95 of his colleagues since becoming 'leader'. He is deselecting anyone who disagrees with him and perish the thought that someone might mention the word 'Jew' or 'child abuse'. The man cannot be trusted on anything. As for that other imbecile John McDonnal, the man who Ken Livingston fired because he brought the GLC to near bankruptcy, can anyone honestly see him running the exchequer? No.

Corbyn has destroyed the Labour party by trying to take it back to the dark ages. He only achieved the same failure rate as Moribund and Brown because of May's disasterous campaign. Had the Tories actually put together a decent manifesto and not alienated the grey vote, Corbyn would have done far worse. As for becoming PM, he is deluded. He said at the conferance that they were on the brink of power! Absolute rubbish. He has four years to wait to see and even then he wont win because the Tories will have sorted out May and replaced her. So, Corbyn loses to a candidate that literally handed it to him on a plate. Just how bad is that.

 

[JBell]

I don't think that's all there is to it. Young people are very disillusioned with politics in general and all the utter hypocrisy.

What really bugs me is the total lack of knowledge which points to a lack of research, some of the crap spouted on TV by them was incredible, thinking he is the Messiah or something and all out problems will be solved