Manchester Bombing

[Frontstep]

Dreadful scenes any parent any person will feel this as children are targeted.

 

[LostKiwi]

Dreadful scenes any parent any person will feel this as children are targeted.

http://forums.mercedesclub.org.uk/index.php?threads/manchester-arena.162075/

 

[Xtractorfan]

Very hard to comprehend how anyone in their right mind can do such things. My sincere condolences to anyone and everyone who has lost relatives and friends. Many peoples lives have now been changed totally through no fault of their own.

 

[davemercedes]

Well, over the years we have relied on USA to swap intelligence etc The disgraceful way information has been leaked to the US press in direct opposition to the request of the UK police calls a heck of a lot of things into question. It has been suggested that it was the law and order division rather than government who are responsible for the leaks.
- Nevertheless, I sincerely hope May will bend Trump's ear enough to send him back intent on dealing with people firmly.

- Remember:

At the time of 9/11 when Blair went to USA the President (George "dubya" Bush) said "we have no greater friend than UK".
- Funny way to treat your best friend isn't it?

Update from Reuters:
http://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-britain-security-manchester-idUKKBN18L0QQ

- UK police stop sharing information on Manchester attack with U.S. after leaks

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[triumphstag]

Absolutely stunned by this. Thoughts to the families and friends of those affected.

 

[davemercedes]

Yes. They're the only ones who matter.

 

[Craiglxviii]

Well, over the years we have relied on USA to swap intelligence etc The disgraceful way information has been leaked to the US press in direct opposition to the request of the UK police calls a heck of a lot of things into question. It has been suggested that it was the law and order division rather than government who are responsible for the leaks.
- Nevertheless, I sincerely hope May will bend Trump's ear enough to send him back intent on dealing with people firmly.

- Remember:

At the time of 9/11 when Blair went to USA the President (George "dubya" Bush) said "we have no greater friend than UK".
- Funny way to treat your best friend isn't it?

Update from Reuters:
http://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-britain-security-manchester-idUKKBN18L0QQ

- UK police stop sharing information on Manchester attack with U.S. after leaks

​

Now I have just seen some info on this, which started with, "If someone wanted to damage the US:UK intelligence sharing effort, they couldn't have found a better way to do it" and ended with, "What makes you think that wasn't the specific intention..?"

Remember what is going on within the US government bureaucracy right now, a civil war between Clinton-era Democrat-supporting workers opposing the Trump Administration, and the Trump Administration making inroads into getting rid of them.

 

[Craiglxviii]

Very hard to comprehend how anyone in their right mind can do such things.

Very true, and this also exposes an unpleasant truth. (Most) Westerners simply cannot think in the way that these goat fcukers do; we see things in terms of right and wrong, righteous or not worthy, moral or immoral. To them those concepts have little meaning, with the exception of a rather different interpretation of "moral". They make no distinction in target selection, indeed they are aiming for maximum outrage. Hence our nearest and dearest come into the firing line.

 

[davemercedes]

It seems the UKIP manifesto launch has an element of Trumpism in it - apportioning some of the blame for this atrocity on the Theresa May.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-salman-abedi-return-uk-jihadis-a7754996.html

I think this is one of those times when definite facts don't matter - it's just whether it sticks.
- Even if there is some element of truth in his claims, I hope Nutall does not make political gain out of this.

 

[Frontstep]

Nuttall is not really relevant at the moment but it will be interesting to see their total vote.

 

[davemercedes]

I see that according to the BeeB, Trump has condemned leaks of the investigation into the Manchester Arena attack to American media as "deeply troubling". They were a "grave threat to our national security", he added, and pledged to get to the bottom of it.
So we shall see...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-40048565

 

[Craiglxviii]

I see that according to the BeeB, Trump has condemned leaks of the investigation into the Manchester Arena attack to American media as "deeply troubling". They were a "grave threat to our national security", he added, and pledged to get to the bottom of it.
So we shall see...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-40048565

Oh yes. His administration is raging mad about it, as the leak looks to have come from- wait for it- a middling level Clinton-era CIA appointee.

 

[Frontstep]

Trump has been complaining about leaks for a long time maybe he has a point.
Why the "newspaper" thought giving the terrorists a heads up on intelligence defies credulity.

 

[Yugguy]

My wife works for a muslim girl's school. They were out in the centre of Cov on a trip yesterday and got grief from some people.

Now I'm not surprised at this, however you can no more blame these girls for Monday's events than you can blame your local CofE church for those nutters in Westboro Baptists.

It's sad too as the school does a lot of good work to help the local community, which is quite a deprived area, but all their good work can get undone by one piece of filth.

 

[Craiglxviii]

Trump has been complaining about leaks for a long time maybe he has a point.
Why the "newspaper" thought giving the terrorists a heads up on intelligence defies credulity.

Because that is part of the resistance to a peaceful handover of power from the Democrats. That's why Comey was fired. Keep watching for more firings as Trump clears Democrat- leaning government employees out. They're trying their best to harm the standing of the country to ruin his presidency. Make no mistake, it's really nasty.

 

[Frontstep]

Muslim girls/women are victims of a ghastly sexist ideology mainly promulgated by old men and deserve our support.

 

[Craiglxviii]

My wife works for a muslim girl's school. They were out in the centre of Cov on a trip yesterday and got grief from some people.

Now I'm not surprised at this, however you can no more blame these girls for Monday's events than you can blame your local CofE church for those nutters in Westboro Baptists.

It's sad too as the school does a lot of good work to help the local community, which is quite a deprived area, but all their good work can get undone by one piece of filth.

The worst thing Guy is that this is exactly the backlash that the Caliphate want to create. Time another attack say just as the first burials go ahead and fresh outrage/ grief etc is caused, the backlash increases and more ignorant recruits flow in from the Muslim community.