R230 NIGHTMARES

[ajlsl600]

all covers out . no sign yet that rodent is involved with abc dram white warninig still checking what exactly is white warning tellin me? and if the lights for lift one two are comming on ,going off why is the car seemingly locked in full height

 

[ajlsl600]

Good luck with it. I had one of these and sold it before anything went wrong although it was a 5.0.

think you were probrably correct to do so i still looking ,found iss ue ref wiper and coolant level . but not abc fixed at full height ?

 

[LostKiwi]

Nothing on Star?

 

[ajlsl600]

well so far repaired 3 wires related to screen wash, and coolant level indicator the sensor shows as ok with meter accross light type cell but dont look good . fitted alarm siren i bought a yr and a half ago . battery out for std charging ,off ctek . no issue seen ref abc so still looking there checking module tommorow for power supply lock valve must be ok its still up at full height all the way round what ever opens them ,or tells the brain where all for wheels are cant be functioning , doubt all for reporting systems are faulty so i think its control of lock valve . i now have screen washer pump running, will check the pump for headlight wash tomorrow as well.

 

[alexanderfoti]

well so far repaired 3 wires related to screen wash, and coolant level indicator the sensor shows as ok with meter accross light type cell but dont look good . fitted alarm siren i bought a yr and a half ago . battery out for std charging ,off ctek . no issue seen ref abc so still looking there checking module tommorow for power supply lock valve must be ok its still up at full height all the way round what ever opens them ,or tells the brain where all for wheels are cant be functioning , doubt all for reporting systems are faulty so i think its control of lock valve . i now have screen washer pump running, will check the pump for headlight wash tomorrow as well.

White abc warning and no coms will give full height driving as a failsafe. Have you pulled off the connector from the ABC module and checked for can voltages? Would d be my next step

 

[ajlsl600]

alexander , thats part of todays plan and its at full height as said, i am rumbling around star for pin outs and voltages, would you know them or where in star to find them , right now there must be something as it shows up on quick test .i guess can is 5 volts ?

 

[alexanderfoti]

Ah Thats good that its come back on quick test, any faults?

IF you send me your vin I will try and get the pinout from WIS.

Can should be 2.5 to 3.5v for Can high and 2.5v to 1.5v for can L.

 

[LostKiwi]

Just for you...
http://forums.mercedesclub.org.uk/index.php?threads/the-r230-can-bus-and-how-to-test.168138/

 

[ajlsl600]

Nothing on Star?

pretty much as listed in first post . been charging starter battery it starts fine was 13.5 down to 12.4 now at 14 ? leaving all to dry out then star again will let you know

 

[ajlsl600]

Ah Thats good that its come back on quick test, any faults?

IF you send me your vin I will try and get the pinout from WIS.

Can should be 2.5 to 3.5v for Can high and 2.5v to 1.5v for can L.

cheers WDB230476F054672 I BELIEVE abc module under d/s dash panel ?

 

[LostKiwi]

Looks like you aren't the first:
http://forums.mercedesclub.org.uk/index.php?threads/r230-abc-controller-location.134770/

 

[ajlsl600]

jesus. i want to look behind the water collector at the base of windscreen. wis says .remove wipers .release rubber seal. unhook quick release behind,on rhd the back of brake fluid tank. unclip water collector out of mounting rail. i have followed this and also removed the gromets surrounding the wiper shafts 3 number no amount of tugging ,tugging and lifting will get it to move any further force will almost certainly brake it. frankly its doing my head in!! unclip colletor out of mounting rail .what mounting rail seems to just be slotted to windscreen edge anyway i have spent 2 hrs trying so far, trying NOT TO BREAK IT

 

[ajlsl600]

Ah... That'll do it!

LK SEND THAT LINK AGAIN PLEASE was reading it and it dissappeared

 

[ajlsl600]

Looks like you aren't the first:
http://forums.mercedesclub.org.uk/index.php?threads/r230-abc-controller-location.134770/

now its back again i am looking in samr plaes now i can get plastic panel at screen base to mov e about an inch left to right, but no amount of tugging ,pushin lifting will get it out !!1 wis i ****** useless on info for it

 

[LostKiwi]

LK SEND THAT LINK AGAIN PLEASE was reading it and it dissappeared

This one?
http://forums.mercedesclub.org.uk/index.php?threads/the-r230-can-bus-and-how-to-test.168138/

 

[ajlsl600]

Just for you...
http://forums.mercedesclub.org.uk/index.php?threads/the-r230-can-bus-and-how-to-test.168138/

thanks, think its going to be slow, waiting inspection camera as well hope it reveals something i cant otherwise see without breaking covers . i simply cant get the lower windscreen plastic drain panel off . i have checked and found them on fleabay for around 70 quid . seems i will have to break it to find out whats holding it on .i am not impressed , i have followed the guide in wis, which is abut as helpful as a chocolate fire guard
when i first tried to lift the car, it did go up i had all 4 strut sensor come up faulty, followng that it just went to full up . so i am fairly confident that the can system had been compromised ,its a case of find out where , and will i be able to get at it .battery good to go ,but dont want to instigate any kind of short until i have been able to check properly .also waiting on box deutz connectors so things can be reconnected ina proper fashion

 

[ajlsl600]

no issues seen in wheel arches, front ,paneling going back . waiting on inspection camera to try to see source before anything else gets broke. nothing on this car is step 1 thru 10 to get outso trying to narrow down search areas before proceeding , anyone ever removered lower windscreen drain plastic panel WIS EXPLAINATION JUST NOT ACCURATE ......

 

[alexanderfoti]

Wis is very frustrating like that. It can give a stupid amount of detail on something that is not required. For other things it can say "remove part" without giving any indication on how to do it.

 

[ajlsl600]

frustrating being kind ! normally the front end of these panels is tucked up into the lower windscreen edge . but so far nothing will lift it , i cant get it to push down and out.it does slide left to right a bit and i have tried everything to see if it slides to a particular point where it will come out ,so far no result ,cant believe i have spent more than 3 hrs trying to get it out .!! no wonder the dealers charge soooooo much to do anything to these cars . i will try to see if anyone doing windscreens knows then if i still cant get it out after checking everywhere else i will have no choice but to break the thing

 

[ajlsl600]

ok . eventualy found out that puling the drain panel from the end and up .almost to the point of breaking it and it came out . for info there is a lip that enters down into a very tight slot at base of screen as oppossed to a u shape channel that is a push fit on the end of the glass i will get around to posting a picture, had that been the case on WIS i would have had the thing out yeserday
anyway found and fixed so far
B1467 M16/32 heat exchanger shut off valve
B1341 alarm horn
B1639 coolant level s41 and s42
I am waiting camera to have a further good look around then i will hook up battery and see suspect/hope some other faults are voltage low related. seen nothing specific on ABC as yet but have yet to work on check power at ABC MODULE tho i know it showed up on last quick test , access to anything is without a doubt,a ballache .