1. This site uses cookies. By continuing to use this site, you are agreeing to our use of cookies. Learn More.

Swap of Comand NTG3 Panasonic (Japan) to Europe NTG3 (Becker)

Discussion in 'Electrics, Vacuum, Ignition and ECU' started by Frode Storkaas, Feb 6, 2018.

  1. Frode Storkaas

    Frode Storkaas New Member

    Messages:
    8
    Likes Received:
    0
    Joined:
    Feb 6, 2018
    Your Mercedes:
    W221 S65 AMG 2006 + W210 E55 T AMG + W169 A180 CDI
    I own a W221 2006 that was imported from Japan. The navi does not except to dowload Europe map DVD, the watch is not possible to set correctly, the FM scale stops at 90 Mhz.
    There are no Connections in the glovebox, and the Bluetooth Works only for the phone. (Iphone, no music)
    Is it possible to buy a Europe Map that can be installed With the JP NTG3 ?

    If not, is it a plug and play job, to replace the JP comand With a European Becker NTG3 comand ? (Connections the same).
    If replaced With the Europe Version, is it possible to add DAB+ in some way ?
     
  2. Botus

    Botus Senior Member

    Messages:
    2,423
    Likes Received:
    324
    Joined:
    Jul 29, 2014
    Location:
    UK
    Your Mercedes:
    S500/2010/500
    DAB is a separate module in the boot.... you can fit the facelift module ..... you need to have updated firmware to birdseye (3d maps mod).... which I expect will only go on the European unit.

    DAB about 100 quid, plus a loom and some fun talking the seats out (or try and aftermarket bodge)
    the NTG 3 units are still pricey secondhand, you could try and get an NTG 3.5 package with the later better screen and the 3.5 head unit but your talking about 800 to 1K... and u still need the module in the boot for the DAB
     
  3. Alfie

    Alfie Forum Supporter Authorised Forum Supporter

    Messages:
    2,355
    Likes Received:
    96
    Joined:
    May 12, 2005
    Location:
    Surrey
    Your Mercedes:
    A150 manual, smart forTwo, W205 AMG line premium plus.
    You can swap the units but its not just plug and play. You will need coding and once it is all in then yes you can add DAB (in2digi)
     
  4. JBell

    JBell Senior Member

    Messages:
    9,004
    Likes Received:
    1,509
    Joined:
    Dec 9, 2011
    Location:
    Torquey
    Your Mercedes:
    C350 CDi Estate (GAD Edition)
    Stick a decent Pioneer / Kenwood / Alpine unit in it, better functionality and much more modern
     
  5. OP
    Frode Storkaas

    Frode Storkaas New Member

    Messages:
    8
    Likes Received:
    0
    Joined:
    Feb 6, 2018
    Your Mercedes:
    W221 S65 AMG 2006 + W210 E55 T AMG + W169 A180 CDI
    If changed to another Component, The navi, phone, display and other details that are using the Comand to function would not be functioning.
     
  6. OP
    Frode Storkaas

    Frode Storkaas New Member

    Messages:
    8
    Likes Received:
    0
    Joined:
    Feb 6, 2018
    Your Mercedes:
    W221 S65 AMG 2006 + W210 E55 T AMG + W169 A180 CDI
    I have bought an European comand NTG3, and will change the unit. However, the wiring of the Japanese cars are a bit different than the Europe Version. Are there anybody at this forum that has the wiring diagrams for these cars ?
     
  7. Alfie

    Alfie Forum Supporter Authorised Forum Supporter

    Messages:
    2,355
    Likes Received:
    96
    Joined:
    May 12, 2005
    Location:
    Surrey
    Your Mercedes:
    A150 manual, smart forTwo, W205 AMG line premium plus.
    The wiring diagrams are Mercedes copyright.
     
  8. LostKiwi

    LostKiwi Senior Member

    Messages:
    14,189
    Likes Received:
    5,508
    Joined:
    Aug 25, 2006
    Location:
    Midlands / Charente-Maritime
    Your Mercedes:
    '93 500SL-32, '01 W210 Estate E240, 02 R230 SL500 (Malcolm Spec), 04 Smart Roadster Coupe
  9. OP
    Frode Storkaas

    Frode Storkaas New Member

    Messages:
    8
    Likes Received:
    0
    Joined:
    Feb 6, 2018
    Your Mercedes:
    W221 S65 AMG 2006 + W210 E55 T AMG + W169 A180 CDI
    The wiring diagram for the European unit was sent by e.mail to me from Mercedes rep. Anybody out there that has the Japanese Comand NTG3 info ?
     
  10. Alfie

    Alfie Forum Supporter Authorised Forum Supporter

    Messages:
    2,355
    Likes Received:
    96
    Joined:
    May 12, 2005
    Location:
    Surrey
    Your Mercedes:
    A150 manual, smart forTwo, W205 AMG line premium plus.
    Well he shouldnt have!

    Good luck finding the Japanese version. Ive got all the Mercedes wiring diagrams for ECE and USA as part of WIS. Ive never seen the Japanese ones in there which fits in with the fact that we cannot lookup Japanese VIN numbers in EPC either.
     
  11. OP
    Frode Storkaas

    Frode Storkaas New Member

    Messages:
    8
    Likes Received:
    0
    Joined:
    Feb 6, 2018
    Your Mercedes:
    W221 S65 AMG 2006 + W210 E55 T AMG + W169 A180 CDI
    I have received the Japanese wiring diagram.

    best regards
     
  12. alexanderfoti

    alexanderfoti MBO Forum Supporter Authorised Forum Supporter

    Messages:
    10,147
    Likes Received:
    1,074
    Joined:
    Mar 25, 2010
    Location:
    Dartford
    Your Mercedes:
    W221 S65 AMG - W204 C63 AMG + Various other MB's
    Cant fit the 3.5 as you wont be able to get a key for the map as its obtained via VIN
     
  13. Botus

    Botus Senior Member

    Messages:
    2,423
    Likes Received:
    324
    Joined:
    Jul 29, 2014
    Location:
    UK
    Your Mercedes:
    S500/2010/500
    ummm

    if it was updated in a donor car first?

    or you just pay a polish guy 20 quid to run a key gen and sent the code by email. BM been like that for more than 5 years and still working

    or like you do on a BM, you temporarily write in later info. The car doesn't know any better, then it'll pull in the later software. Then you change back to std... although when did that on my 335 it was changing the production build date not chassis number
     
  14. jk02jk02

    jk02jk02 New Member

    Messages:
    2
    Likes Received:
    0
    Joined:
    Jul 5, 2018
    Your Mercedes:
    w166 2014
    Hello,
    can you send me the wiring diagram also.
    thanks
    i also replace the comand form japan ntg3 to eu ntg3
     
  15. OP
    Frode Storkaas

    Frode Storkaas New Member

    Messages:
    8
    Likes Received:
    0
    Joined:
    Feb 6, 2018
    Your Mercedes:
    W221 S65 AMG 2006 + W210 E55 T AMG + W169 A180 CDI
    I am on a business trip Probably able to send on Friday.
    Where to ?
     
  16. jk02jk02

    jk02jk02 New Member

    Messages:
    2
    Likes Received:
    0
    Joined:
    Jul 5, 2018
    Your Mercedes:
    w166 2014
    Dit you get my PB
     
  17. john.vdm

    john.vdm New Member

    Messages:
    2
    Likes Received:
    0
    Joined:
    Aug 30, 2018
    Your Mercedes:
    W221
    Hi Frode,
    I'm in exactly the same situation , tired up of listening to the ON station I capture here :)
    Can you send me the necessary info by pm?

    Thank you very much
     
  18. OP
    Frode Storkaas

    Frode Storkaas New Member

    Messages:
    8
    Likes Received:
    0
    Joined:
    Feb 6, 2018
    Your Mercedes:
    W221 S65 AMG 2006 + W210 E55 T AMG + W169 A180 CDI
    The car was fitted With an European command unit, and amplifyer yesterday.
    They did a lot of wiring, and removed the video player, radar warner +++.
    Hope they are able to set the car up With the Star program. Will know on monday.
    Best regards

    Frode
     
  19. john.vdm

    john.vdm New Member

    Messages:
    2
    Likes Received:
    0
    Joined:
    Aug 30, 2018
    Your Mercedes:
    W221
    ok I'll be waiting read you on monday
     
  20. cl63amg001

    cl63amg001 New Registration

    Messages:
    1
    Likes Received:
    0
    Joined:
    Oct 1, 2018
    Your Mercedes:
    CL63 AMG C216
    Hello @all

    @Frode Storkaas

    did you convert the comands from Japan version to EU? And what was all changed sorry my English is not the best I have a CL63 from dubai who is also a Panasonic Comand.

    Regards Peter
     

Share This Page