Tefflon Tony Blair

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I know this can't be public knowledge to everyone, but is it such a hot potato that nobody comments?

To save the trouble of using Google, I'll put this up for comment about dear Tony and his pal Brown.
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I read through these stories with huge scepticism, the notion that Cliff was somehow protected by the Blairs falls apart when the Blairs enemies take power.
What better stick to beat the liberal media's pantomime baddy with than protecting a paedophile.

Blair would be crushed.
 

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there are plenty of genuine sticks to beat him with
 

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there are plenty of genuine sticks to beat him with

I read through these stories with huge scepticism, the notion that Cliff was somehow protected by the Blairs falls apart when the Blairs enemies take power.
What better stick to beat the liberal media's pantomime baddy with than protecting a paedophile.

Blair would be crushed.

The way that "Auntie" reported the attention given to Cliff was nothing short of disgraceful. It seemed to be the published view that he was guilty (of something at any rate) until he wriggled out of it... The implied type of crime was very well wrapped up so that wagging tongues could repeat the usual "no smoke without fire" uttering and it was obvious through all the time that the case was "on ice" that he was being tried by media and rumour.

And what did he get at the end? - That bald statement "we shall not be proceeding further" - as usual in such cases, no apology and no statement of innocence.

I often regard such celebrities as being well equipped to take care of themselves and generally deserving of what they get in the public eye, but this case was a really disgraceful performance and I hope he gets some justice when he takes the police and BBC to court.

But after seeing this case, people are now asking why Trump excluded the Beeb from his press conference!
 

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They were reeling after Savile and wanted to be seen to do something; but Blair had questionable friends
 

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I am certain photos exist of me with known criminals, should I hand myself in now :)
 

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I read through these stories with huge scepticism, the notion that Cliff was somehow protected by the Blairs falls apart when the Blairs enemies take power.
What better stick to beat the liberal media's pantomime baddy with than protecting a paedophile.

Blair would be crushed.

In this instance, the saying "No smoke without fire" seems very apt to me.

On a political level I smile when both sides of the political spectrum on here still villify him. It says everything about the man I need to know.
 

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I find it amusing that the liberal lefties are still flagellating themselves over his success something I suppose that won't be happening anytime soon.



Having been layed up in bed during the Iraq inquiry, the thing that preoccupies the hand wringers, my conclusion was Tony Blair and George Bush should have kicked Saddams back side much earlier.

The smoking gun or even its holster for wasn't there for Blairs condemnation but still why let the facts get in the way of a good witch burning.

The dodgy dossier wasn't, it was just a collection of poor intelligence on someone who we all knew did have and used WMD.
 
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I find it amusing that the liberal lefties are still flagellating themselves over his success something I suppose that won't be happening anytime soon.



Having been layed up in bed during the Iraq inquiry, the thing that preoccupies the hand wringers, my conclusion was Tony Blair and George Bush should have kicked Saddams back side much earlier.

The smoking gun or even its holster for wasn't there for Blairs condemnation but still why let the facts get in the way of a good witch burning.

The dodgy dossier wasn't, it was just a collection of poor intelligence on someone who we all knew did have and used WMD.

when Saddam attacked Iran he was doing so as the USA dog
 

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Still you can't deny Saddam had and used WMD, why do the handwringers make such a deal of the dossiers ?

We still don't know what happened to the stockpiles chemical ali had dropped from.

Saddam attacking Iran was more a problem of no one wanting him to lose once he had started so he did get support from them and others after he lost his gains when Iran started to organise themselves.

In the murky world of middle east politics the dictator or the country with nuclear aspirations dedicated to wiping Israel off the map.
 
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Still you can't deny Saddam had and used WMD, why do the handwringers make such a deal of the dossiers

The years following the overthrow of Saddam failed to find a single WMD.
The very weapons Bliar and his lover Bush used to falsely claim enough reason to attack Iraq. Blair is a murderer of British troops, sent to fight a war started on false information.

What's with the "handwringers" insult ?
I'm no more left wing than you.
 

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The years following the overthrow of Saddam failed to find a single WMD.
The very weapons Bliar and his lover Bush used to falsely claim enough reason to attack Iraq. Blair is a murderer of British troops, sent to fight a war started on false information.

What's with the "handwringers" insult ?
I'm no more left wing than you.

I think he is referring to the very well-known pre-war Iraqi chemical weapons stockpile. The whole "WMD" thing focused on nuclear or radiological weapons, which they seem to have never developed or acquired. But please to remember that NATO and its individual members do not differentiate by weapons effects, they are all "weapons of last resort" and retaliation can be done in kind- thus a Sarin attack can be met with nuclear response for example.

For the guys in the Spearhead forces and in particular 22 Engineer Reg't who were tooling around actually searching for WMDs in Iraq, please rest assured they were looking for more than just bombs with radiation symbols painted on them. As an example (and this is taken straight from Wiki, so please do your own homework) after the war's conclusion the UN regulatory agency destroyed the following:

50 deployed Al-Samoud 2 missiles (deployment systems)
Various equipment, including vehicles, engines and warheads, related to the AS2 missiles
2 large propellant casting chambers
14 155 mm shells filled with mustard gas, the mustard gas totaling approximately 49 litres and still at high purity
Approximately 500 ml of thiodiglycol (mustard gas precursor)
Some 122 mm chemical warheads
Some chemical equipment
224.6 kg of expired growth media (biological weapons- very nasty).

According to reports from the previous UN inspection agency, UNSCOM, Iraq produced 600 metric tons of chemical agents, including mustard gas, VX and sarin, and nearly 25,000 rockets and 15,000 artillery shells, with chemical agents, that are still unaccounted for.

So while the popular story that WMDs had not been found is true in a sense- Saddam did not generate any nuclear-armed forces, he did have a history of chemical warfare against his enemies (and his own people) and a known, well-publicized industry and infrastructure to generate that capacity.
 
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Its just that Saddam had form for WMD Blair didn't invent that, he didn't murder thousands of British soldiers and he didn't send British and other soldiers to war on any invention of his and you have to remember that many countries were involved in this enterprise including Australia Romania Poland etc etc



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multi-National_Force_–_Iraq#List_of_countries_in_the_coalition


I don't like him at all but he has had a ludicrous press on this the Iraq war inquiry found diddly.
 

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