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Discussion in 'Politics' started by Naraic, Aug 16, 2017.

  1. Craiglxviii

    Craiglxviii Senior Member

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    D215... I have met and know quite a lot of snowflakes. My generation (80s kids), older and younger. They tend to be the NIMBY types. Then there’s the lefty antiestablishment it’s cool to be a socialist types. Then there’s the it’s always the parents fault types. All of them share a common theme- jumping on the outrage bus due to an inherent inability to take responsibility for actions, either individual or collective.

    In addition, please to look at American universities for a good example of today’s snowflakes.
     
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    Case in point.

    I really don't care whether Damian Green had porn on his computer...but I really really do care as to whether his two accusers did/do.
     
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    Craiglxviii Senior Member

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    Indeed. An an employer I operate an open- porn policy.
     
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    Did the "west" write the Quran the source of inspiration for Islamic terrorism ?
    Perhaps another bogeyman I could mention Kim Jong Un who seems to be quite good at striking fear into people without any capitalist intervention ?

    The there's the recently departed Mugabe or Papa Doc maybe, he might sound like a Disney Dwarf but he was very real for so many, I could probably fill the page.
    The economic decay is actually a product of humans just being human there is no utopian system this side of reality every "system" has its problems.

    As to drugs why legislate for more problems we don't manage fags and booze very well as it is, the notion that drug addicts will suddenly become model citizens because Heroin is available at Boots instead of dim daves and coke head carols is the product of brains addled with too much dope smoking.

    I to attended University, ain't that old and live very comfortably without a Daily Mail in sight.
     
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    Damians office as shown on the footage from the raid didn't look a place for secretive porn viewing, still maybe they were all at it who knows.
     
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    Is the ‘crime’ victimless?
    Is it a crime?
     
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    To what do you refer?
     
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    Damian Blue I mean Green!
     
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    A guy had some porn on his PC, maybe.

    How serious was the suggested porn? Was it illegal material?
    If it was illegal surely action would have been taken at the time.
    So if it wasn't illegal why should it matter now?

    Downloading porn onto a Westminster PC isn't ethical.
    Should action have been taken at the time?
    No action taken even if it had been considered.
    So why should it matter now?

    Is the guy a pervert? Seems more like he is just a bloke enjoying more than page 3.

    Now the ex coppers divulging such sensitive information is serious.
    Why now?
    Should action be taken against them? It is being investigated so let's hope so.

    I view their actions as anti democratic, but there is a lot of that around nowadays.
     
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    I'd view it as being unprofessional and unethical.
     
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    The problem I would have is an MP viewing porn on my taxes, its bad enough all the other things they get up to.
     
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    How do you know he was watching porn on your taxes? If he was watching after hours in his time for example?
     
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    Since they are known to be attending to duties through the night sometimes a reasonable question is , when is an MP's time their own?
    Are they effectively on flexi time or are they on duty at all times when at Westminster?

    Should they be able to drink alcohol in the Westminster bar and feasibly have their judgement affected while talking of Parliamentary matters?

    Or is all this just OTT distracting dribble?
     
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    Zero hours contract seems to fit IMO!!??
     
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    You must be hanging around with the wrong people. The only antiestablishment types I know live in caves/ out of vans/ in shared houses and couldnt care a less about political correctness, etc. A lot of them are middle class some have made their own fortune and have seen wealth isn't everything and want a more just society, hardly due to their "inherent inability to taek responsibility for actions". I see myself as rather left wing in general (atleast for here) but am very pro social responsibility and for true one nation capitalism (not the corporatism we have now, which - ironically - is closer to communism than capitalism if analysed by outcome).

    The nearest I can get to the above is a trendy "anti-consumerist" guy who has all the latest apple gadgets and asks me each time we go on a trip why I don't get a newer car...

    Not been to a US univeristy though I'd wager that the SJWs we hear about are not very typical and just those who shout the loudest
     
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    Well back on with Trump he is agreeing with Israel calling Jerusalem its capital.
    hmm he then went on to explain his stance which was well reasonable but the worlds media ran round looking for civil unrest and ended up having to rerun old footage of arrests.
     
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    I know in these days of political correctness and "walking on eggshells" politics Trump might not have been wise to say what he did; but isn't he just telling it like it is?
     
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    Just yesterday a Kings College students society requested a guest speaker not to attend because they felt she would “breach their internal safe- space guidelines”. The speaker had just given a lecture on “the dangers of transgenderising infants and young children”. The students felt that someone challenging such a fundamental of human nature would be too dangerous for them to hear.

    That’s right now at KCL. Tell me they ain’t snowflakes.

    A few months back, one American university in NY state from memory posted an article in its student newsletter demanding that military veterans be prevented from becoming mature students, because they were too dominant in group discussion, took the lead too easily/ naturally and similarly prevented the feeling of safe spaces in the classroom. Tell me they ain’t snowflakes?
     
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    Yes. The trouble is that no one wants to hear it.
     
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    Stuff I saw on the coverage tonight appeared pretty recent. I don't think they had to hunt too hard to find it either.
     

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