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Do you not remember WWll, USA saved Britain from the Germans.

You might argue that if the UK hadn't stepped up Germany would be a rather larger and nastier adversary of the USA.
I thank you for saving us, how much did that cost? Would that cost have been so much less, financial and lives lost, had the USA joined the big party earlier?
 

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Bush was going into Iraq without any allies as he said "you are with us or against us"
Threatening, not just a war on terror implied there.
Now we see The Trump threatens to destroy N Korea. Not saying Kim isn't spoiling for a scrap himself but negotiation toward a peaceful settlement isn't apparent.

BTW have the bids gone in for rebuilding N Korea yet, although knowing that Haliburton will get that there isn't much point really.
 
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Threatening, not just a war on terror implied there.
Now we see The Trump threatens to destroy N Korea. not saying Kim isn't spoiling for a scrap himself but negotiation toward a peaceful settlement isn't apparent.

BTW have the bids gone in for rebuilding N Korea yet, although knowing that Haliburton will get that there isn't much point really.


A Nuclear N K is not an option.
TRUMP threatening N K -- WTH. Kim has over and over and over threatened to Nuke the USA.
You sound like a Lib blaming Trump for this ****.
 

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Do you not remember WWll, USA saved Britain from the Germans.

What a pity you were so late with your help. The war in Europe started in 1939.
Do your history books state the war ran from 1941 -1945 ?
It took the Japanese to get you interested.
 

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A little baby cub grizzly is playing in the woods, all the sudden a pack of wolves comes up and are going to rip the little cub apart, well the baby cub stands on back legs straight up, growls and growls at the wolves and the wolves all the sudden run away in terror
the little cub feels mighty to have scared off the pack of wolves then the camera pans out and unbeknown to the baby grizzly a giant 15 foot Grizzly Mama comes walking up behind her baby cub. That my friends is why you will never be attacked.
 

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What a pity you were so late with your help. The war in Europe started in 1939.
Do your history books state the war ran from 1941 -1945 ?
It took the Japanese to get you interested.

(LATE WITH OUR HELP)--- you are here,like a Lib no gratitude.
At the start of WWll the USA was nothing, had no military,Navy,to speak of but when Japan attacked Pearl the American people built our Military all automotive plants went military.
Had we entered the war at beginning Germany may have won. When Japan came into our house and attacked that was a magnitude 100 mistake.
Just say thank you and be on your way.
 

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Look, let's get a few things straight. Replies in bold.

Without the USA the UK would not exist. Not true. Without the UK winning the Battle of Britain, Germany would not exist as the US Strategic Bombardment Commission had planned the nuclear destruction of the country to be carried out in 1947.

The USA does not need the UK or the other allies the only reason we ask is for unification. Well actually it's a symbiotic relationship. The US as global Hegemon maintains that position by keeping a grouping of allies, of which the UK is by far the strongest both economically, politically and militarily.

Bush was going into Iraq without any allies as he said "you are with us or against us" That's because Bush- and Trump for that matter- is a maximal realist. To a realist, the choice is simple- "what benefits me the most?" So that statement is completely in keeping and I entirely agree with it.


On any conflict The USA provides more $ and man power than all the allies combined.

This is true. It is also true that those conflicts suited the US cause more than it's allies. It is also true that the US provided a high % of commitment during the Cold War; this allowed domestic spending to be concentrated on preventing Communism e.g. social welfare programs of West Germany. That was completely in line with US policy.

The only thing keeping Communist from attacking our so called allies is the fact the USA makes it very clear the USA will PROTECT it's allies.

The one thing that the US has made clear throughout the Zerobama years is that it couldn't give a rats ass about its allies. POTUS Trump is making good progress on fixing that.

Every Country the USA has defeated we end up protecting.

Yup, and that policy rather backfired in Iraq and the Stan. Very long discussion there btw.

As far as the USA asking the UK for unification that is only a gesture, like inviting you to a large party does not matter if you come or not.

Only, it does and by quite a lot. The UK forms part of the US SIOP. British resources are an integral part of US defence research- the F-35 and the Common Missile Compartment of the COLUMBIA/ Successor SSBNs for example.
 

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Mr Kim is very silly.
Can his warhead actually reach Quam?
Would a missile be accurate enough?
Could the US intercept it en route?
Will he run out of buck shot before he is a realistic threat?

I guess he doesn't have the same right to bear arms as the little cub has

I don't see the little chap as being a significant threat to the US, now the feasible effect on his neighbours is more of a concern, with what may be clumsy attempts at growling as China may not be walking up behind. Any nuclear fall out on them is a worry or feasibly The Trump would have dropped one on him by now.
 

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(LATE WITH OUR HELP)--- you are here,like a Lib no gratitude.

Don't assume you know me.

Of course the UK , and Europe were pleased the US joined in. But I wonder how much longer you would have stayed at home had Japan not attacked you?



Had we entered the war at beginning Germany may have won.
Just say thank you and be on your way.

Really! I know the Yanks have a reputation for friendly fire incidents but I don't see how entering at the onset would have lost us the war? Germany lost the war by heading East instead of coming here. Better get that straight.

Sure, thanks for your help but I'm going nowhere.
 

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Look, let's get a few things straight. Replies in bold.

Yes Obummer was a disgrace.
The Trump USA is the greatest Country on earth and rebuilding our military, with that you can go to sleep every night knowing the USA will keep you safe.
 

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The Trump USA is the greatest Country on earth and rebuilding our military, with that you can go to sleep every night knowing the USA will keep you safe.

Don't take China and Russia for granted.
Patriotism is great, but get a grip of yourself man:p
 

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Don't assume you know me.

Of course the UK , and Europe were pleased the US joined in. But I wonder how much longer you would have stayed at home had Japan not attacked you?





Really! I know the Yanks have a reputation for friendly fire incidents but I don't see how entering at the onset would have lost us the war? Germany lost the war by heading East instead of coming here. Better get that straight.

Sure, thanks for your help but I'm going nowhere.
The USA bombed the hell out of germany, the Germans damn near wiped the UK off the map and would have if not for USA.
This is BS the USA won the war end of story.
Be damed thankful we saved your Kingdom.
I'm out of here going to go ride my Fat Gurl ( Honda Valkyrie Interstate) aka the Fat Gurl.
 

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Our little island has a developing problem with guns in the hands of gang members on our streets, but I've always said where the US goes we follow, not Vietnam granted the French returned the favour of WW11 for you there. That being after you had returned the favour of them helping you in 1776+.

Gotta wonder how many of those guns originated in the US, at least Obama gave a care about that.
 

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The USA bombed the hell out of germany, the Germans damn near wiped the UK off the map and would have if not for USA.
This is BS the USA won the war end of story.
Be damed thankful we saved your Kingdom.
I'm out of here going to go ride my Fat Gurl ( Honda Valkyrie Interstate) aka the Fat Gurl.

Whatever Hank.
Another American with no idea of history.
Have a nice day.
 

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(LATE WITH OUR HELP)--- you are here,like a Lib no gratitude.
At the start of WWll the USA was nothing, had no military,Navy,to speak of but when Japan attacked Pearl the American people built our Military all automotive plants went military.
Had we entered the war at beginning Germany may have won. When Japan came into our house and attacked that was a magnitude 100 mistake.
Just say thank you and be on your way.

At the start of WW2 the US was just behind the British Empire as global Hegemon. In 1941 that passed from the Empire to the US, the only time in history that happened peacefully by the way.

The Axis would never, could never have won the war. Realpolitik saw to that. It could not have defeated the Empire by the way- fought us to a standstill, but no victory at sea possible makes an invasion of the UK impossible which means the Empire remained as long as the war lasted.

However, this ignores Woodrow Wilson's huge, huge mistake of "A peace with no victors"in 1918. That specifically set Germany up for round 2...
 

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Before I go, I do love England. Love the BBC good family viewing.
The UK and the USA if either is attacked then both are attacked.
God Bless the Queen and Trump.
 

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^ You should have said that from the start instead of the chest beating.
Now we're friends again:D
 

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