Update on my Warped Discs

[Frontstep]

They are half right thats the nub of the problem and they have used their half as get out.

 

[carloss]

That may be so...but does that mean MB are right?

I personally wouldnt argue the case but cant answer for others

 

[WG M-B]

Quality thread this one!!!!!!!!
So let me get this right....... Fitted green stuff pads to genuine MB discs and the discs are faulty? No fitting issue? Green stuff pads cant cause the issue because they are More expensive than genuine pads?

Just for the record i fit several sets of pads and discs every week. GENUINE DISCS AND PADS. Never ever have a problem.
You must have got very unlucky S Speed.

 

[hotrodder]

true, but what about the people who are qualified but either work for themselves or currently dont work in a garage, like myself? i must admit, id be reluctant to pay the premium to buy from MB after reading this thread!

To try and bring the situation into context if i sold you (for arguments sake a leather suite) and you cleaned the said suite with a product not endorsed by me and it destroyed the leather who would be liable???

Off the top of my head (i'm a specialist welder/fabricator so not really my world) the consumer goods act puts the onus on the supplier/manufacturer to prove that products AREN'T faulty for the first 6 months or so. After 6 months (and upto 6 years) it becomes the consumers responsabilty to prove that they were faulty/not fit for purpose. Sometimes this is very clear cut, sometimes less so. Brake discs would be in the later category... presumably they'd need to be inspected by the manufacturer and if, after a few minutes with a micrometer DTV was discovered they'd claim improper fitting/bedding etc. Somwhere other than MB (in other words where customer service isn't a swear word) may be more likely to just replace 'em. Especially for trade/regulars

The leather sofa i'm guessing would be the punters fault, at least most of the time as there's virtually always a warning on cleaning products to 'test on a small inconspicuous area first in case of reaction'

OK malcolm where is the proof to the above statement also how can a MORE efficient brake pad fullfill the above quote

If the op had used approved merc pads this thread would not exist

It may not exist in it's current guise but given the nonsense the OP was told they'd have probably blamed it something else (fitted wrong/not bedded in properly etc)

Green stuff are sold as being low dust, kind to discs etc etc. EBC (like every other brake manufacturer) still have a bunch to say on vibration/DTV for example... http://www.ebcbrakes.com/automotive/brake-vibration.shtml

 

[television]

Quality thread this one!!!!!!!!
So let me get this right....... Fitted green stuff pads to genuine MB discs and the discs are faulty? No fitting issue? Green stuff pads cant cause the issue because they are More expensive than genuine pads?

Just for the record i fit several sets of pads and discs every week. GENUINE DISCS AND PADS. Never ever have a problem.
You must have got very unlucky S Speed.

Yes but these things do happen, we get quite a lot of out of true disc threads here and elsewhere

 

[Naraic]

Quality thread this one!!!!!!!!
So let me get this right....... Fitted green stuff pads to genuine MB discs and the discs are faulty? No fitting issue? Green stuff pads cant cause the issue because they are More expensive than genuine pads?

Just for the record i fit several sets of pads and discs every week. GENUINE DISCS AND PADS. Never ever have a problem.
You must have got very unlucky S Speed.

So...you don't rate EBC?

 

[turbopete]

Just for the record i fit several sets of pads and discs every week. GENUINE DISCS AND PADS. Never ever have a problem.

are you replacing the discs because theyre worn out OR because theyre warped? and WHY do MB discs seem to wear so fast? i never replaced discs as often on our fords as i do on the MB!

 

[WG M-B]

Over the years i have had many problems with non genuine brakes.
I never have a problem with genuine brakes.

 

[television]

are you replacing the discs because theyre worn out OR because theyre warped? and WHY do MB discs seem to wear so fast? i never replaced discs as often on our fords as i do on the MB!

Power to weight ratio possible, but I sold my SL at 55k with the original rear disc, and they were still good, the fronts were replaced at 30k because they fractured all over

 

[turbopete]

Over the years i have had many problems with non genuine brakes.
I never have a problem with genuine brakes.

so you ONLY ever replace brakes that are worn out?

 

[turbopete]

Power to weight ratio possible, but I sold my SL at 55k with the original rear disc, and they were still good, the fronts were replaced at 30k because they fractured all over

quite possibly the weight etc Malcolm although a 170BHP mondeo will be running at similar levels to a C220 cdi id imagine. perhaps theyre designed to wear fast to give shorter stopping distances? i really dont know the answer

 

[television]

quite possibly the weight etc Malcolm although a 170BHP mondeo will be running at similar levels to a C220 cdi id imagine. perhaps theyre designed to wear fast to give shorter stopping distances? i really dont know the answer

I put it down to the way that many drive,,,I mean going full blast towards a red traffic light does not add up to me, neither does driving up someone's backside 4" of your bumper

 

[WG M-B]

so you ONLY ever replace brakes that are worn out?

YES. Like i said, i never ever have an issue with genuine brakes.

 

[carloss]

Power to weight ratio possible, but I sold my SL at 55k with the original rear disc, and they were still good, the fronts were replaced at 30k because they fractured all over

Rear brakes are only working about 25% compared to the fronts unless you are fully loaded ask any mechanic

 

[television]

YES. Like i said, i never ever have an issue with genuine brakes.

And 99% do not get problems with after market brakes either

 

[television]

Rear brakes are only working about 25% compared to the fronts unless you are fully loaded ask any mechanic

Actually is 28% for the rear

 

[WG M-B]

And 99% do not get problems with after market brakes either

99% of who? Using what products?

 

[carloss]

Actually is 28% for the rear

Is your opinion that strong that you need to split hairs malcolm

 

[television]

99% of who? Using what products?

My local garage change about 20 sets per week, they get their parts from a local factor and they do not get problems at all, this type of thread has been up loads of times. Many local factors can supply the real MB thing, I bought a pair of vented grooved front disc for the SL 230 for £99 made by Zimmerman with the identical stampings and number, thats ½ the MB price or better.

If firms like Brembo made a bad product they would not still be selling them would they, the same goes for EBC and many many others

 

[carloss]

And 99% do not get problems with after market brakes either

Wig is giving his opinion on his experience what are you basing your opinion on malcolm ??