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Urgently want to know how to turn off stop start ... on this hideous GLC 220d 4 Matic

Discussion in 'General Mercedes-Benz Related Discussion' started by Submariner1, May 9, 2018.

  1. CLKToday

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    My two pence worth: I’ve just handed back a GLC350d 4matic that I had for two weeks whilst MB Watford repaired the climate control on my E400 coupe. I have to say I loved it! The stop start can be turned off with a button next to the comand controller. I’ve never been a fan of stop/start but when it was on it wasn’t an issue, instant response on hitting the throttle. As far as fit and finish goes I thought it no different to any other Mercedes I’ve driven, C, E, CLK, ML & S...


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  2. John Laidlaw

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    Must admit I had a GLA a couple of years ago when my last 212 gave up the ghost and MB attempted to repair it- it was pleasantly surprising!
     
  3. Alfie

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    Stop start can be permanently turned off if desired ;-)
     
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    Rolling back can be prevented if the left foot is applied to the brake pedal. Or, if you use the parking brake as you would during your driving test. Is it really that difficult?
     
  5. EmilysDad

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    When I was invited to a speed awareness course many years ago :rolleyes: I hot told off for left foot braking :confused: apparently I might have pressed both pedals at the same time o_O
     
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    Does stopstart really improve emissions? In the real world, not the vw test rolling road.
     
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  7. sl500amgsport

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    From what I've heard it helps manufacturers meet CO2 figures but does little for the owner.

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    It can save the owner a little money if it puts your car in a lower ved band, and company cars drivers can benefit as a lower band will reduce benefit in kind taxation. I quite like the quietness when sat at traffic lights but I seem to be in a minority here.
     
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    I find that silence off-putting when driving the missus car that has the stopstart. And in most modern luxury cars you don't really hear the engine at idle.
     
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    Submariner1

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    It didnt seem to excel in my very brief trial.
    But I could see, say in one of our horrrible summer traffic jams e.g. on the way to the coast, it might save a lot of fuel.

    Personally, I am too old, to accept tht starting an engine say 20x in one journey, is not adversely wearing out the starter motor and the toothed ring on the crankshaft.

    And I dont think the prognosis is good for future buyers of say 6 year old cars.
    As my next car will no doubt have it ... I will just get warranty that covers this. So no worries.

    Call me cynical, but I suspect MB probably designed the components to last 4 years and 60,000 miles, i.e. they are covered.
     
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    The problem is that anyone who is mostly driving in conditions where the stop-start is kicking in 20x in a very short space of time probably should be finding another means of transport like walking, cycling or public transport.

    Anyone who would only have start-stop kick in once or twice at the few traffic lights or the occasional traffic jam will not see any meaningful reduction in overall average fuel consumption so it is pointless.

    I suppose the start-stop engine would make sense for taxi drivers if the Prius hadn't been invented 20 years ago which gives much more efficiency in town along with proper longevity and reliability.
     
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    If the Stop/Start functions bothers anyone, go see Alfie. Problem over.

     
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    I hate the stop/start feature, when we first got our car it was working all the time so like many others we would just press the button in the car each time we started it so it was disabled, but it's a pain in the bum having to remember to do that every time you start the engine. Funny thing was that after about 6mths the stop/start just stopped working and for ages we just left it switch on and it was great. Now the last couple of weeks it's decided to start working again and we are back to turning the flipping thing off everytime we go out. When I had my little Fiat500 that also had stop/start but you could disable it permanently on the dash which was handy.
     
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    Submariner1

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    Hmm on this one, as soon as you touched the brakes the engine cut out.
    So you would be back to where you started.
    :):)

    Once I founf the switch, ( Europcar remove the manuals! And forget to tell you there is an electronic manual in Comand! ) that solved everything. Bit of a pain remembering to turn it off.
    Worked fine .. no rolling back.

    No fear of buying one, when one sees the kind of gorgeous 2nd hand SL or CL one could buy for £42 K.
     
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    Submariner1

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    The Porsche High Speed driving course also condemed that practice.
    Cant remember why ... and I didn't personally see the problem in using a left boot.
    Just did what I was told. :)
    Boy could that guy drive a 911 ... :)
     
  16. Flyinspanner

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    Maybe a high speed driving course in a porker is seen slightly differently then wafting around town in a diesel :)

    I think driving schools now teach left foot brake on autos.
     
  17. ajlsl600

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    i have a fairly dim view of the benz tech myself, what i have seen since 01 certainly does not impress with its reliability or for that matter logic. i believe they are really buget oriented in design and designed to have you back in the dealer the day after yr warranty expires .if benz are lucky.. for this matter most other brands may be the same or worse, just that i have 4 benz so thats my experience. stop go ,to me will annoy and half life a starter that probrably takes all day to get out and in and costs the best part of a grand in time,parts .so i not interested . someone WILL devise a cunning way to dissable it .
     
  18. JBell

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    Submariner1

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    I would concur with you.
    The first 3 MBs I had. One 190E 2.6 auto and two E 320 Coupes circa M Reg.
    All did 45000 miles each. And I think I lost one sidelight bulb!
    IMO thats utterly bomb proof! :):) ... and hey thats on almost budget level.

    The R230 SL500s shattered my faith in MBs engineering design and reliability. Beautiful design ..one of the prettiest SLs ever. Fabulous when they ran. But 3 roofs leaked on delivery! And when I lost one ABC strut at 1,400 miles ... wtf.
    The S Class level cars are lovely ... but no more bombproof or reliable than a Lexus or BMW.

    What really saddens me is the ONE bastion of quality, the good old 5.0L and 5.5L bomb proof engines; look like being killed off and replaced by over egged, turbo-ed up, and no doubt way overstressed 4.0L engines
     
  20. Craiglxviii

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    How the F**K do you think a FOUR LITRE engine is going to be overstressed? If it’s producing over 1000bhp then maybe. Otherwise I seriously doubt it.

    How many high powered (by design) two or three litre engines suffer catastrophic deaths in comparison? (Hint- very few as % of build).

    E class, budget level, do you mean that E class were “budget” cars? Like say a Fiesta? If so, again wrong. They were (and are) built to budgets, but the E (Executive) class sits below the S (Luxury) Class in the model lineup. They’re expensive cars now and they were then.

    So, in the nicest way, what are you on about?
     
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