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Old 23-06-2009, 10:24 AM
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Hi all,

This is my first post, although I have been reading the forum for a while. I'm very impressed by the help and advice everyone gives - its a very friendly forum.

I am looking for a new car - my focus estate has seen better days and its about time I got something a bit better. I was thinking about either an E270 diesel 2004 model with < 60k miles (can buy for around 10k+) or a CLK 270 diesel model of a similar age and mileage (similar price too).

I have been looking for some time and have a few questions:

1) Am I right in thinking the rust problem wont be an issue with 2004 models?

2) Whats the general difference between the Elegance and Avantgarde models?

3) Whats the whole 5 cylinder thing in the 270 CLKs (from Autotrader technical section) - I thought it was generally 4 or 6? What are the 5 cylinder engines like?

4) Are folding seats common in the E class and CLK? I have to be able to fit a bike in the boot...

5) Does anyone have any other suggestions about these two models - which is best, more reliable, what specs to look for etc?

Thanks in advance for the help!

Reuben
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Old 23-06-2009, 10:53 AM
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1) Am I right in thinking the rust problem wont be an issue with 2004 models?

Correct. Cars of that age are galvanized and have nano paint.

2) Whats the general difference between the Elegance and Avantgarde models?

Elegance is a softer more compliant suspension and less "sporty" trim. On the E Class, AG has Xenon lights (superb), part leather upholstery and firmer lower suspension.

3) Whats the whole 5 cylinder thing in the 270 CLKs (from Autotrader technical section) - I thought it was generally 4 or 6? What are the 5 cylinder engines like?

Well thought of, I believe, and economical.

4) Are folding seats common in the E class and CLK? I have to be able to fit a bike in the boot...

Not standard on the E Class saloon - and I think uncommon, so you would do well to find a car with this feature. I don't know about the CLK.

5) Does anyone have any other suggestions about these two models - which is best, more reliable, what specs to look for etc?

The E Class is a roomier car with a good boot. There are lots on the market. The other diesel engines are very good too - 320 is quick and excellent for towing, but not unduly thirsty. 220 is more frugal and goes well - less acceleration than the 320, but will cruise all day at illegal speeds just the same.

I would tend to keep an open mind on choice of engine, but my preference would be for an E Class (more elbow room).
Hi Reuben, and welcome to the Forum. I have set out my views on your questions Q & A style up above. There is a lot of personal choice involved. Folding seats were not standard on the E Class, so finding them on a used car would be a matter of luck.

I have not run a 270 but they have many fans and do appear to be a very economical engine.
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Old 23-06-2009, 11:11 AM
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Old 23-06-2009, 11:50 AM
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Thanks for the quick reply Alex! Good to hear about the paintwork, as there seem to be a lot of posts on this forum about the rust problem!

Interesting comments about the E Class. I will be sure to check about the folding seats before I buy anything, given that its an option. I did ring up one dealer who had a CLK and the seats in that one did fold, which was interesting. Whether its standard in the CLK or not, I dont know?

My impression (probably unfounded) was that the 220 would be a bit underpowered really... I felt that the 270 was a good compromise, but then often there is more to it than that. People may tell me otherwise.
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Old 23-06-2009, 02:49 PM
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The 220 isn't as underpowered as you'd think. i thought the same and test drove one before buying. I was pleasantly surprised. The 220 is quite eager and certainly felt a match for my previous E240
The way the salesman put it was that round town there is nothing much to choose between the 3. Its only 50+ that the difference really starts to show. As I do a lot of mway work, I went for a 270 and haven't regretted it. I once drag raced a 220 and was well over 40 before I started to pull away. Had a nice 320 come up, I'd have been tempted but the 270 is 4 mpg better in my experience and the 270 is plenty eager enough, though the porsche style 70+ acceleration of the 320 is intoxicating.

Folding seats were an option across the range. They do exist (a friend and the old man both have them on their E classes) but despite mine being a better spec overall, I don't.
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Old 23-06-2009, 04:48 PM
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Thats interesting. Certainly the 320 diesel is seriously powerful, and its interesting to see that the efficiency of the 220, 270 and 320 in the E class isnt too different. What do people get, in practice, from their E class diesels?
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I believe folding seats are standard on the CLK, mine certainly do anyway.

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Old 23-06-2009, 05:34 PM
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E class all day long. Much "more" car for the money, nice as the CLK is I'd go for a 211. As already said don't discount the 220cdi. If folding seats are an issue maybe an E class estate would be a better bet. Cavernous boot.
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Hi ive just sold an 03 e270 and bought a 06clk320 the e seems a better cruiser but performance wise chalk and cheese the clk realy is pretty quick glad i swapped
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Hi ive just sold an 03 e270 and bought a 06clk320 the e seems a better cruiser but performance wise chalk and cheese the clk realy is pretty quick glad i swapped
The CLK, even in base spec, has a lot of standard items that are optional extras on C & E classes. Don't discount it too soon.

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