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Old 08-08-2012, 09:08 AM
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Default CLS with new NTG 2.5 Comand unit + H/K Amplifier & Sub Amp.

Yes, I guess I am now part of the NTG 2.5 comand convoy. The NTG 2.5 comand unit is finally fitted to my CLS with other additional items like IPod Media Interface, NTG 2.5 Tv tuner & the latest Map disk update.

I travelled to Lightwater for the upgrade and Richard & Mark took the car apart. Yes, they took out everything in the car to wire up the cables. I took pictures while this upgrade was going on and it was an absolute pleasure to watch these guys in action. They really know their stuff and I cannot recommend them enough. Is the upgrade worth? Well, this response is totally subjective. To me, it's bloody worth every dime invested into it but like I always say "One man's meat is another man's poison". I guess, some would really like to do the upgrade but the cost might put them off.

The NTG 1 parts would be made redundant as they are not compatible with NTG 2.5 parts. Here is a list of the parts that I purchased for the conversion:


1) Mercedes-Benz NTG 2.5 Comand unit + Gps Antenna

2) Mercedes-Benz NTG 2.5 HK Amplifier

3) Mercedes-Benz NTG 2.5 Sub-Amplifier

4) Mercedes-Benz Ipod Interface

5) Mercedes-Benz NTG 2.5 Tv tuner

6) Map disk update

7) Mercedes-Benz Comand NTG 2.5 manual

8) WCM-DVD module for NTG 2.5

9) Bluetooth-Antenna for NTG 2.5

10) Microphone extension cable NTG 2.5

11) W211/219 sound harness NTG 2.5 (code 810)

12) Mercedes-Benz storage tray

13) Labour charge


All the parts + labour (including coding) cost me = £4050.00

I have available all the NTG 1 parts that came off my car and they are up for sale. Here are few pictures of the car during upgrade and after upgrade.

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Old 08-08-2012, 09:16 AM
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Just love watching these guys work! Great handfuls of cabling, trim panels scattered everywhere...

And it all goes back together as if it had never been touched, class!

No one does it better!!

Will be interested in how well the digital TV performs, keep us updated?
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did your car have HK originally?

if you feel it ws worth the money, then its a great investment. but at £4k i can understand why many people deem a HK/BOSE upgrade at an excessive cost! id LOVE to upgrade my car to BOSE or HK (whichever was fitted at the time) but the costs really would be too prohibitive for me.

great job though!
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The Junction split is so wonderful on the new unit. The bird eye view mode is great. Am loving it.
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did your car have HK originally?
Yes, I had a factory fitted NTG 1 Harman Kardon. That is now up for sale.
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Default Latest 2012 Map update disk!

Due to time constraint, Mark gave me the map update disk to take home and do it myself. The update took me an 1h45 and the car has to be at a stand still position to carry out the update.

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Oh, for sure, I will keep you guys updated!
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Wow you certainly dont mind spending the money on your beautiful CLS.Its a great car and as you say, to you its worth every penny.......good on yer. Enjoy
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I too can vouch for Comand online as I had a NTG 2.5 retro fitted..

I REALLY love the interior of you car.. Stunning...
Have you tried the Blutooth phone yet??
It really is as good as a hard wired phone.. My car is hard wired as well (it was when I bought it)..

How does the sound system perform now?
Do you rate it better than your old one??

P.S Dont forget you can sell your map update disc on easily..
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Default Bass/Treble functions not terrific on new H/K amp!!!!

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I too can vouch for Comand online as I had a NTG 2.5 retro fitted..

I REALLY love the interior of you car.. Stunning...
Have you tried the Blutooth phone yet??
It really is as good as a hard wired phone.. My car is hard wired as well (it was when I bought it)..

How does the sound system perform now?
Do you rate it better than your old one??

P.S Dont forget you can sell your map update disc on easily..
Hello Simon,

You really motivated me to undertake this task. It involved alot financially but am really pleased if not for anything but the high quality Satnav to match the nice interior of my car. The old NTG 1 Nav was a big let down on my car because everything seemed alright except that the Satnav looked dated.

That said, I have not been able to get the Tv to show image on the screen despite it being fitted the same day as the NTG 2.5 comand unit. You can hear background noises and people talking but no visual image. I called Mark to explain the situation and he would be having the car back soon to fix this issue.

For now, I have not seen a big difference between my old Harman Kardon Amplifier and the new H/K amp fitted. I noticed the old one had a nice quality bass. It was really deep and the sound was terrific. The new one is really refined, the clarity of music is on point but it's really lacking bass and treble. I configured the H/K thereby activating the Logic 7 on surround to boost up the bass quality, honestly, the Logic 7 did not improve the bass. I was worried as I have read through the manual which I bought off comandonline and I can't see any other thing I can do to this effect. I called Mark to explain this situation and he will be having the car back soon to verify certain settings. I checked certain forums online and discovered that the new Harman kardon amplifier output is 450 watts while my old H/K amplifier had 350 watts. Why is the bass lacking then?

I have Bose acoustic at home, this sound system never stops to put a great smile on my face when I listen to real classical & country music. The Bose bass is unbeatable. When I listen to music files on my Ipod via Harman Kardon, the quality output is not great but I discovered that the bass is slightly higher when I play audio formatted MP3 files with higher bit rates. The bass output improved but not great.

I know you don't have Harman kardon to compare this, so for now, I can't seem to get hold of someone with similar H/K amplifier to compare the results. I guess, I hope to wait until Mark takes the car in for closer verification.

This issue aside, the unit is really fantastic and I love the screen split feature. While on my way back from Lightwater, I never stopped admiring the rich 3D pictures. I really love it.
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