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Old 09-01-2017, 12:16 PM
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Since owning my 2004 500SL Iíve carried out correct preventive maintenance. It has done 59K. Reading references to ABC/SBC system problems, pumps, valve blocks and suspension struts etc I keep wondering if I was foolish in buying a 500SL rather than the 3.7 Litre? I appreciate that forums do reflect owners with problems but is the 500 a car that is a future money pit? I have to say coming from a R129 the 500SL is a lovely vehicle to drive and the V8 an inch I had to scratch! My thoughts now turn to the gearbox. At present the gearbox is performing perfectly as is the rest of the car. My respected indie' who will be carrying out the servicing has suggested that if the gearbox oil looks clean and doesn't smell, leave well alone. Mercedes want £300+ to change the gearbox oil. I'm into preventive maintenance having carried out an ABC oil/filter change and Malcom's rear wheel arch rustproofing procedure. Basically are these cars a bad buy? Thanks for any replies. Cheers J C.
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Old 09-01-2017, 12:20 PM
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Its only a bad buy if you don't feel you are getting the enjoyment from it you feel the price should provide.
If you're enjoying it then its a great buy.
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No ... but they can be expensive to repair when things go wrong . If all is good it's a sublime car and you should have many years of trouble free motoring ...


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Old 09-01-2017, 12:48 PM
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Agreed LostKiwi. However, with a vehicle when new costing 60k+ having a braking system prone to failure by components having a finite life and suspension strut ball joints that can't be replaced I'm wondering does this tarnish the ownership appeal? What's the forum's thoughts on my "Indies" rational on gearbox oil changes? J C.
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Old 09-01-2017, 12:55 PM
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Agreed LostKiwi. However, with a vehicle when new costing 60k+ having a braking system prone to failure by components having a finite life and suspension strut ball joints that can't be replaced I'm wondering does this tarnish the ownership appeal? What's the forum's thoughts on my "Indies" rational on gearbox oil changes? J C.
The ball joints can be repaired, Star Motor Services in Reading will do this for £80/ corner.

Agree with everything LK said, it's your enjoyment that is the defining factor. Was my CL a bad buy? Having spent 4x the purchase price on getting everything fixed up, yes it was. But if I keep it in good nick now and I can get 10 years of driving out of it, it'll be no more expensive than any other secondhand car has ever been for me. Swings and roundabouts.
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suspension strut ball joints that can't be replaced
This is incorrect. I had mine done by Ian (Star) in Reading for £100. He injects them with Resin to repair them if they become worn.


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I'm wondering does this tarnish the ownership appeal? What's the forum's thoughts on my "Indies" rational on gearbox oil changes? J C.
I would agree with your Indie 100%. I think you're worrying about stuff that may never happen, and potentially worrying others too .

I have had no problems with my 2004 SL55 in 4 years and 25,000 miles other than tyre and brake pads/discs which are servicing items.

How many miles a year do you do in it would you say ?
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Agreed LostKiwi. However, with a vehicle when new costing 60k+ having a braking system prone to failure by components having a finite life C.

Sorry the braking system is not prone to "failure". That seems a little dramatic. The SBC pump can be replaced, or reprogrammed if you choose. I made contingency for this potential cost when I bought the car, not to do so would have been foolish. To date it has not happened, and it may not for many many more miles.

Incidentally I believe the 3.7 SL you refer to has the same issue ? (Could be wrong).
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Maybe your indie is just saying you don't have to change it if it's clear, smells ok.

However, preventative maintenance is no bad thing either, and keeping the auto box clean will help extend its life.
I would ask your local indie what he will charge for the fluid & filter for the box.
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Sorry the braking system is not prone to "failure". That seems a little dramatic. The SBC pump can be replaced, or reprogrammed if you choose. I made contingency for this potential cost when I bought the car, not to do so would have been foolish. To date it has not happened, and it may not for many many more miles.

Incidentally I believe the 3.7 SL you refer to has the same issue ? (Could be wrong).
the SL350 still has SBC but it lacks ABC...
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Old 09-01-2017, 01:35 PM
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Thanks for the constructive replies. Yes I am aware of the strut repairs to the bottom ball joint and the unlikelihood of SBC pump failure, also fitted on the 3.7 Ltr? I usually cover less than 5k a year so hopefully, on the current 59k I've got a few years incident free motoring! I concur with the oil change on the gearbox and will see what my "Indie" will charge. After all he is a "Porkie'" Indie as well! J C.
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