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CNN: The electric stars set to light up 2017

http://edition.cnn.com/2016/12/23/mo...ars/index.html

Some oddballs and some exotica here...
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Many of the car makers are trying to be seen to use green energy to construct cars, Ford have wind turbines at Bridgend and Dagenham, and they talk about it powering the whole of the engine production. The BMW i3 we have on order is made in a green energy powered facility, and the i3 carbon fibre body cloth is made in a factory in the USA powered by hydro.
I understand that 12% of Nissan Sunderland plant's energy needs are met by the (feckin' huge) on-site wind farm. It's not to put "green energy" into cars, it's because it's relatively cheap to do with Government grants...
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CNN: The electric stars set to light up 2017

http://edition.cnn.com/2016/12/23/mo...ars/index.html

Some oddballs and some exotica here...
How many will sell more than 30k per year..? That's when one needs to take it seriously; under that it's miniscule/ niche.
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I understand that 12% of Nissan Sunderland plant's energy needs are met by the (feckin' huge) on-site wind farm. It's not to put "green energy" into cars, it's because it's relatively cheap to do with Government grants...
Also keeps manufacturing costs down
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Also keeps manufacturing costs down
Everything is subordinate to the total delivered cost of the vehicle as it leaves the gates...
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Everything is subordinate to the total delivered cost of the vehicle as it leaves the gates...
I know, I specialise in Lean and Supply Chain recruitment
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I know, I specialise in Lean and Supply Chain recruitment
Hmm. I might need to keep you in my phonebook
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Hmm. I might need to keep you in my phonebook
Hmmm... me too. My other half is contracting to JLR as a buyer....
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Hmmm... me too. My other half is contracting to JLR as a buyer....
There 2 new engine plants at i54 have roofs full of solar panels.
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My concern with it all is the pollution involved in making the batteries. Yes the car themselves are Eco Friendly once built.

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but are they? no one actually knows exactly where there power comes from (ie which power station) so it could be a huge dirty coal plant or some eco friendly wind farm somewhere.

as for the battery life and running costs, Nissan claimed, when they were launching the leaf, that the batteries (at a cost of 5k+ from memory) would need replaced something like every 5 years. now, taking the cost of fuel (and obviously its storage in the case of batteries) I did some pretty basic (I'm not a complicated sort of bloke) maths breaking it down to the costs for the average 10k miles per year car user and it worked out that at 40mpg there was still a slight cost advantage over a pre set cycle (Nissan were claiming you would be able to pay for an amount per week/month to 'hire' the batteries, so the cycle would be however long you kept the car under these circumstances) with a regular car, over the cost of running a Leaf, ignoring the range issues and time to recharge them.
then if I were to take into account the cost difference between the Leaf (they were claiming 20k to buy at the time) and its petrol/diesel equivalent (size wise) the Nissan Almera (or you could have gone for a focus, Astra or any competitor) with similar (according to the info I had at the time) for about 7k less. so poor range/recharge rates, 7k more to buy, daily running costs pretty much the same, ok regular engines need a service now and again (2-3 over 3 years) which WONT (unless its MB dealer prices) cost 7k between them. THAT is the main reason theyre not taking off as fast as they could.
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