Apple profit warning

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Hmm we have kind of had our fill of doom forecasts recently and revenues slashed to 84 Billion dollars does not sound too bad on the scale of things.
The reality is that the market is getting to saturation point with very capable phones from many sources.
Apple can console itself with its cashpile.
Every time I pass the Apple store it is full of devout followers of its cult perhaps they will in response to a prompt from their phones end it all together.
 

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That's certainly the surprise of the new year so far :shock:
 

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Only $84 Billion

My heart bleeds........
 

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This ties in with what Jaguar Land Rover are seeing. Their sales in China have dropped 50% and are causing significant challenges for them resulting in plant working hour reductions and the possible loss of jobs (they've already cut their agency staff significantly).
Whilst $84 billion is a lot in revenue any significant downturn can have far reaching knock on effects. For example (using JLR) if JLR have a significant reduction in their sales they in turn will reduce their orders for components. Many of those components are outsourced so these businesses in turn become impacted. In many cases these supplier's have suppliers of their own and so the damage creeps back down the tree. The only thing that's certain is that sooner or later it becomes personal and affects a person somewhere who will now have to find a new job in a market where there are many candidates.
 

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This ties in with what Jaguar Land Rover are seeing. Their sales in China have dropped 50% and are causing significant challenges for them resulting in plant working hour reductions and the possible loss of jobs (they've already cut their agency staff significantly).
Whilst $84 billion is a lot in revenue any significant downturn can have far reaching knock on effects. For example (using JLR) if JLR have a significant reduction in their sales they in turn will reduce their orders for components. Many of those components are outsourced so these businesses in turn become impacted. In many cases these supplier's have suppliers of their own and so the damage creeps back down the tree. The only thing that's certain is that sooner or later it becomes personal and affects a person somewhere who will now have to find a new job in a market where there are many candidates.

Where from, China ? :rolleyes:;)
 

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At between £700 & £850 for an Iphone 8, Apple have finally priced themselves out of the market. They're just not worth it.
 

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At between £700 & £850 for an Iphone 8, Apple have finally priced themselves out of the market. They're just not worth it.

The Apple fanboys still lap up the phones and Macs despite the crazy prices being asked.
Samsung have joined the bandwagon too with overpriced phones.
People are less likely to want to upgrade at up to £1k a pop now and the Chinese/Korean offerings are taking a bigger share of the market all the time.
 

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The Apple fanboys still lap up the phones and Macs despite the crazy prices being asked.
Samsung have joined the bandwagon too with overpriced phones.
People are less likely to want to upgrade at up to £1k a pop now and the Chinese/Korean offerings are taking a bigger share of the market all the time.
I have a Chinese phone and it's far and away better than the Samsung it replaced.
 

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I have a Chinese phone and it's far and away better than the Samsung it replaced.
My £250 Chinese phones work just fine for me. If I break them I get a new one.
 

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I've had Apple and Samsung phones in the last 4 or 5 years or so. For me the Samsungs have been vastly better and with fewer glitches. However I agree that pricing of both has become an issue and I'm seriously considering a Huawei next time. That might not be for a while because my current S6 edge still does everything I require and very well too.
 

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I've had Apple and Samsung phones in the last 4 or 5 years or so. For me the Samsungs have been vastly better and with fewer glitches. However I agree that pricing of both has become an issue and I'm seriously considering a Huawei next time. That might not be for a while because my current S6 edge still does everything I require and very well too.
My Mate 10 pro replaced a Samsung S6 Edge. Do it. The Huawei is vastly superior in every way.
 

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Thanks LK. Interesting. That phone you've got must be one heck of a device then. I've been so happy with the S6 Edge though and it's hard to imagine how it can be bettered. I guess 3 years or so is a long time in phone technology !
 

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Thanks LK. Interesting. That phone you've got must be one heck of a device then. I've been so happy with the S6 Edge though and it's hard to imagine how it can be bettered. I guess 3 years or so is a long time in phone technology !
Basically it feels more robust (I cracked the screen on the S6 inside the first month), battery lasts 2 days where the S6 struggled to last a day, the performance is better, software seems more stable and the battery charges much faster (with the supplied charger).
As for the camera... All I can say is I've stopped taking a dedicated digital camera out with me. IMG_20180712_082132.jpg
This was taken using the Huawei.
 

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LK I agree re battery life of the S6. That's the one aspect of the phone that isn't brilliant. I've considered (still considering) the Huawei P20 regular model to replace it. It is reasonably priced, not too large and has rave reviews. As you've probably gathered, I prefer Android to ios.
 

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Battery life on Huaweiis excellent. I have their Honor 8X. The battery is never less than 30% by the time I go to bed and put in charge. I get fed up of hearing my son cursing his iPhone. I think they will go the way of Nokia unless they change their ways.
 

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Since I got my Samsung S9 I've virtually stopped using my Nikon. I'm sure the S9 could have taken that pic of sunflowers jut as well.
 

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