Thoughts on banning Petrol, diesel & hybrid vehicles by 2035

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It's 12-15 years away. Economies of scale and mass production will see prices fall.
How much was a 60" AMOLED TV when they first appeared compared to now? Or Blu-ray players?
Maybe you are right. Time will tell.

If anything they should be dirt cheap, disposable white goods that they will be.

Great for the environment eh.
 

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Just out of curiosity I tried entering my daily commute into one of these "look how much you could save by going electric" websites.
Taking the SL and comparing to a Model S Tesla my 8 mile daily commute would be £650 cheaper per year.
Great day the sheeple - I'll get one and save all that money, forgetting completely about the £80k cost of buying the car.
At £650 per annum it's over 100 years just to break even....
 

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Well I don't think anyone has ever claimed the total cost of ownership of EV's as being cheaper, or even competitively priced against other technologies for that matter, everyone has a right to choose whatever their reasons, and certainly don't deserve being insulted on a public forum over their personal choices.
 

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Well I don't think anyone has ever claimed the total cost of ownership of EV's as being cheaper, or even competitively priced against other technologies for that matter, everyone has a right to choose whatever their reasons, and certainly don't deserve being insulted on a public forum over their personal choices.
Who's been insulted?
 

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I think it was inside ev,s website or something (I don't go there honestly, android notifications about news articles) anyway, they claim over 92 % Americans hardly ever do more than 60 miles per day so there should be a very good market for a 100 mile range therefore very cheap ev ?
Who is going to be first to offer a ice to ev conversion kit? china/ebay ?
Some guy in a audi s4 or similar removed his engine and drivetrain and put in possibly a tesla battery/motor system. He loved it as it made the car even more crazy quick.
 

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just watching coverage of the floods got me thinking(dangerous i know) if the country has lots of charging points that get destroyed by being submerged where are all the cars then going to charge
 

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just watching coverage of the floods got me thinking(dangerous i know) if the country has lots of charging points that get destroyed by being submerged where are all the cars then going to charge
Is it any different to fuel station underground tanks and pumping equipment getting filled with water?
 

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Just out of curiosity I tried entering my daily commute into one of these "look how much you could save by going electric" websites.
Taking the SL and comparing to a Model S Tesla my 8 mile daily commute would be £650 cheaper per year.
Great day the sheeple - I'll get one and save all that money, forgetting completely about the £80k cost of buying the car.
At £650 per annum it's over 100 years just to break even....

You forget the additional cost of over £1000 to insure the Tesla :shock:
 

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You forget the additional cost of over £1000 to insure the Tesla :shock:
Tesla parts are very very expensive (and only from Tesla) which i assume is a major factor in there high insurance premiums.

Also i would have thought insurance companies would load any electric car policy simply due to the inherent problems of electric cars such as range issues, poor resale values and short product life (compared to an ICE car)
 
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do some breakdown services ie AA/RAC etc tend to shy away from dealing with electric cars
 

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do some breakdown services ie AA/RAC etc tend to shy away from dealing with electric cars
I would not have thought so, but i very much doubt they could repair one on the roadside (unless it just ran out of power).
 

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I think ev’s will be good for a local ish happy shopper, but to travel any distance would mean at least a couple of hours stop off enroute to charge the battery, even then, that time will be dependant on how new the battery is, ambient temperature, battery temperature, charging rate at point and the queue for the charger?? Might have missed some. A big one for me would be dealing with charge/distance anxiety. :(
 

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Of course, bans imposed by Governments have always worked to the betterment of society! E.g, addictive drugs, alcohol, gambling, prostitution, etc, etc. And like most regulation the major impact is a growth in the public bureaucracy necessary to enforce the bans which require more taxes to fund it, so prices for everything go up. But it is all justified by making the world a better and safer place.
 

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Of course, bans imposed by Governments have always worked to the betterment of society! E.g, addictive drugs, alcohol, gambling, prostitution, etc, etc. And like most regulation the major impact is a growth in the public bureaucracy necessary to enforce the bans which require more taxes to fund it, so prices for everything go up. But it is all justified by making the world a better and safer place.
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It’s going to be a very interesting 15 years!

Attended a conference last week in London and there was a talk by Dyson. They’ve done a project with local schools in London where the kids wore the air quality sensors in their backpack. It was a very interesting bit of research!


The chemicals the kids were exposed to was crazy. They concluded that 31% of kids changed their method of how to get to school.

I just want to get hold of the data - could you imagine pairing that data with GPS, traffic light data, weather etc. Lol that’s me being sad
 

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They want money and votes, that is all
It's the age old political trick of justifying taking as much money as possible out of your citizens pockets while just retaining enough support to remain in power. What a con game.
 


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