Modern cars & lucky escape on A19 this morning (daughter-in-law)

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Heck of a story and so glad that the precious people are all okay - as said above cars can be repaired or replaced but those we value most have the biggest risk and they’re irreplaceable.

Give them all a big hug, Rory and they’ll know they’re special!
 

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I've taught at sixth-form college and in adult education where my groups are mainly in their early twenties, and Y E S the newer generations are so self-entitled. The lack of manners really disgusts me. I won't rant about that, but I do find it's snotty young birds and blokes who sit in the outside lane and won't move, don't indicate when pulling into my way, don't thank me when I let them out of a junction or slow down for them, and are the guilty party who overtake other cars in 30mph zones ffs. One trampy scrote missed me (barely) head-on this week by overtaking a line of cars in a v i l l a g e (30mph) and through a blind-bend, and he couldn't give two shits. Good job I have firm brakes, my tolerance however isn't.

I've changed my mind, I'm having a little rant:
Self-entitled, self-important, self-obsessed look-at-me generations since the launch of social media.
Nasty little fukkers who can't see beyond their own noses and imaginary identites they create for themselves on facebook.
No I'm not miserable old and bitter pensioner (not yet anyway), but even growing up without carpets and in social housing for the most part I was taught good manners, to be non-judgemental (above everything else) and to show respect for my elders.
Kids these days dick about with their phones whilst having a conversation with you, and expect everything to be given to them because they deserve it. Also they're work-shy and moan abouth everything:geek:
Did I write this in my sleep?;);)
 
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Heck of a story and so glad that the precious people are all okay - as said above cars can be repaired or replaced but those we value most have the biggest risk and they’re irreplaceable.

Give them all a big hug, Rory and they’ll know they’re special!

Thanks.

Happily the lady in the other car should be ok. Some broken ribs. Dash cam shows (according to popo) that the Golf pulled into the lane and then stalled or stopped and that DiL took evasive action but had the golf kept going it would have been a near miss. Apparently (according to what the police say) the 3 year old says "Oh no" seconds before impact.

Police have been very good with good communication.

Family now all rushing around to buy dash cams.......:)
 

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I've taught at sixth-form college and in adult education where my groups are mainly in their early twenties, and Y E S the newer generations are so self-entitled. The lack of manners really disgusts me. I won't rant about that, but I do find it's snotty young birds and blokes who sit in the outside lane and won't move, don't indicate when pulling into my way, don't thank me when I let them out of a junction or slow down for them, and are the guilty party who overtake other cars in 30mph zones ffs. One trampy scrote missed me (barely) head-on this week by overtaking a line of cars in a v i l l a g e (30mph) and through a blind-bend, and he couldn't give two shits. Good job I have firm brakes, my tolerance however isn't.

I've changed my mind, I'm having a little rant:
Self-entitled, self-important, self-obsessed look-at-me generations since the launch of social media.
Nasty little fukkers who can't see beyond their own noses and imaginary identites they create for themselves on facebook.
No I'm not miserable old and bitter pensioner (not yet anyway), but even growing up without carpets and in social housing for the most part I was taught good manners, to be non-judgemental (above everything else) and to show respect for my elders.
Kids these days dick about with their phones whilst having a conversation with you, and expect everything to be given to them because they deserve it. Also they're work-shy and moan abouth everything:geek:

We're not all like that! I'm 36 and about half my friends are like me, buy 2nd hand, repair things, look for value for money, etc. the other half, well they don't drive and have no interest in a car but I would say are entitled for everything else, expect 100% conevnience at any point and wonder why they never have any money. They are also the ones, depsite no car, who don't know why I drive mine and don't understand why I don't have an iPhone as I have a good job...perhaps due to the fact I have a flat and a country house I just bought and no mortgages which obviously I couldn't have done if I hadn't saved for the last 15 years. They also have no idea why I did up/am doing one up myself and don't just pay someone else to do it as "I can afford it", not realising that if I had done that I wouldn't have the second house as the 30k I saved on not having builders means I can afford the second and so on.

Having said that, for the most part it is curiositiy rather than looking down their noses, for true looking down your noses and image obsession middle aged, middle class England can never be beaten. When I visit my parents (who aren't like that but live in that kind of street) in my beaten up W124 (scratches on every panel, paint falling off) the looks you get are incredible. When I was contracting in the UK after 1 month I was asked when I was leaving and to park it at the top of the road by some 60 yr old idiot. If it hadn't been for my parents who are "keep the peace" type of people I would have parked it outside his house for the next month but instead I just told him to FRO and he couldn't understand why I was so terse with him and would not see that it was nothing personal and the image of the street and my parents house was at stake...! Another 50yr old asked me why I had it when I come from "such a nice family". Well... maybe because I don't want to rely on my parents (unlike their son who has a brand new fiat 500 abarth paid for by them at 18) and as a combination of parking on a Spanish street and needing a builders car means anything will be wrecked inside and out anyway why bother. When I'd left the same guy interrupted my dad mowing the lawn and asked why he had an old mower when there were new shinier ones available at a cheap price that look better!

I'd also say a lot of these types of people are the true ones who expect everythign done to them and could not possibly survive if they couldn't have a new Range Rover Evoque (on credit) every 3 years. One family who lost their income even kept that and lost their (heavily mortaged of course) house whilst still driving it!

Am I doing the ranting correctly? ;)
 

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... yes you are! Very well done rant too.
 
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We're not all like that! I'm 36 and about half my friends are like me, ...........

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So by your measure at least 50% of people your age are a$$holes:).

There are always exceptions but generalising, the people your age/generation seem to have a massive sense of entitlement and an ME,ME,ME attitude. However my parents probably said that about my generation.

However to quote Socrates:

“The children now love luxury; they have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for elders and love chatter in place of exercise. Children are now tyrants, not the servants of their households. They no longer rise when elders enter the room. They contradict their parents, chatter before company, gobble up dainties at the table, cross their legs, and tyrannize their teachers.”


To be honest I don't think that anyone of any age living in a decent neighbourhood would want an old wreck of a car parked outside their house!
 
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So by your measure at least 50% of people your age are a$$holes:).

There are always exceptions but generalising, the people your age/generation seem to have a massive sense of entitlement and an ME,ME,ME attitude. However my parents probably said that about my generation.

However to quote Socrates:

“The children now love luxury; they have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for elders and love chatter in place of exercise. Children are now tyrants, not the servants of their households. They no longer rise when elders enter the room. They contradict their parents, chatter before company, gobble up dainties at the table, cross their legs, and tyrannize their teachers.”


To be honest I don't think that anyone of any age living in a decent neighbourhood would want an old wreck of a car parked outside their house!

I suppose it depends what a sense of entitlement is. There seem to be a lot of people on here who are not young who scoff at people not being able/wanting new cars, not buying the best thing, etc. TBH the fact you think living in a "decent" neighbourhood means you can object to someone parking a legal car on a public road shows a sense of entitlement and a ME ME ME attitude. If that's the biggest issue someone has (it is a fully assembled working car, not in pieces!!) then I think it shows how sheltered they have lived.

I wouldn't go as far to call anyone with a perceived sense of entitlement "a$$holes" (neither you, nor 50% of my friends ;) ) though. It's largely cultural and by hanging around with the same friends that the dunnign kruger effect takes place and people think it's normal and don't realise how self entitled they're being - I am sure I'm self entitled in some respects too.

I would say that's perhaps one of the greatest thigns about Spain, although it's changing slwoly the socialising is still very geographical and familiar, which means that it is very normal to have a table of 25 people eating out together with some peopel out of work, some students and some people doing very well...there will also be ages from 20 to 75 and all types of education level etc. Which is very useful to get a perspective and realise we're more the same than different and that everyone can have a variety of problems rich or poor. In the UK before emigrating my social circle was mainly people of the same age, degree educated from middle class families. So we all had the same problems we thought were the be all and end all and wouldn't know what "other" people go through.
 
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I suppose it depends what a sense of entitlement is. There seem to be a lot of people on here who are not young who scoff at people not being able/wanting new cars , not buying the best thing, etc (who is scoffing - there are many enthusiastic members who love working on their cars and prefer older cars and are quite proud of their bargain hunting & repurposing of old stuff). TBH the fact you think living in a "decent" neighbourhood means you can object (who said that I object?) to someone parking a legal car on a public road shows a sense of entitlement and a ME ME ME attitude If that's the biggest issue someone has (it is a fully assembled working car, not in pieces!!) then I think it shows how sheltered they have lived (Let me know when you have a nice house in a nice suburb and I'll dump and old wreck on your doorstep and we'll see how long you tolerate it - if you already have an address available send it to me & I'll organise for a roadworthy wreck to be delivered;)).

I wouldn't go as far to call anyone with a perceived sense of entitlement "a$$holes" (neither you, nor 50% of my friends ;) ) though(A$$holes was a generic term to cover the 50% of people that are not as nice as you. You are the one who said that half your friends are like you and not like the people getting criticised on the forum.....- so what does that say about the rest?). It's largely cultural and by hanging around with the same friends that the dunnign kruger (Dunning Kruger) effect takes place and people think it's normal and don't realise how self entitled they're being - I am sure I'm self entitled in some respects too.(D-K relates to competence / in-competence & the perception thereof. Your usage of D-K theory is incorrect.

I would say that's perhaps one of the greatest thigns about Spain, although it's changing slwoly the socialising is still very geographical and familiar, which means that it is very normal to have a table of 25 people eating out together with some peopel out of work, some students and some people doing very well...there will also be ages from 20 to 75 and all types of education level etc. Which is very useful to get a perspective and realise we're more the same than different and that everyone can have a variety of problems rich or poor. In the UK before emigrating my social circle was mainly people of the same age, degree educated from middle class families. So we all had the same problems we thought were the be all and end all and wouldn't know what "other" people go through.
 
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Back on topic, at the scene of the accident the police told my son that the emergency services arrived at scene of the accident very quickly because the SOS system in the car alerted AUDI/Emergency service the moment the accident happened.

Newer MBs have something similar.
 

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Well done, Audi.
I can foresee this being a required standard within a very few years.
 

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Well done, Audi.
I can foresee this being a required standard within a very few years.
It’s already becoming standard with the whole “connected/ smart mobility” thing.
 

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It's not just youngsters there are an awful lot of people on our roads who have never passed a UK driving test and a lot of them come from countries where driving standards are a whole lot different from here.
For instance I have known people come here from Thailand and drive on their Thai licence and it is common knowledge over there that a licence can be bought.
 

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exactly , anyone can come here and drive on an international license for a year , its a ridiculous thing to allow , utter madness
 

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exactly , anyone can come here and drive on an international license for a year , its a ridiculous thing to allow , utter madness
And they have lhd cars, no mot, don't put a penny into the road tax fund, and drive heaps of **** leaking oil everywhere, reverse park bump and scrape other peoples nice cars at the supermarket car parks, and just don't care :-D

It's mint to see the other rants from you lot, I know I'm a rare breed of the 'individual variety', but thought I was in an exclusive minority club. I can't watch 'one foot in the grave re-runs' without almost ****ing myself every time victor meldruw kicks off :) Good to see other people still strive for good manners and mutual respect, and this carries over into their driving.
I'm also late thirties, but if the ancient greeks saw this change in attitude way back when, maybe we all transition from youth to adulthood in the same manner and I was a nasty thoughtless youngster on the roads too?

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The MX5 was a close call, glad you missed taking the hit, maybe he was mistaken in thinking that they're fast enough for what he was intending to do, and did his sister know he'd taken it for a spin?:D
 
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myself and my wife have very few friends for exactly that reason, we can’t stand faceache and twatter, and can’t abide constantly sitting in coffee shops or having everything on credit because they have to have it NOW, :oops:

It's like listening to my echo echo echo....
 
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