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14 Months of ownership but it's still not a Mercedes

Discussion in 'General Mercedes-Benz Related Discussion' started by The Pan Man, Jan 14, 2012.

  1. The Pan Man

    The Pan Man Senior Member

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    I don't post very much these days but I still lurk in the background once a week or so. I would like to air my views on the BMW 530i that I bought in November 2010.

    Where to start, well the BMW as a car has no faults with the 3 litre straight 6 engine it never gets stretched or stressed the box 6 Speed changes without fault the interior is crisp and clean and comfortable, so what am I saying. It's not a Mercedes thats what I'm saying. I do hope this makes some sense to some of you. Nothing wrong with the car at all but there is just something missing.
     
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    One of our neighbours had a 530i, and I travelled to France with him in it to "collect" some fine wines.

    Super car - quiet and very quick IIRC. He was always very reluctant to comment on fuel consumption though.

    Given that you moved from a W211 diesel, to the 5 series petrol, can you comment on the difference that has made in performance v fuel consumption?
     
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    Rust and unreliability?
     
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    Alex, I was going to add that, In just over 10,000 miles it has averaged 26.6 mpg I also now do mostly very short trips, so what ever I decide to run I doubt that it will make a lot of difference. The performance is as you would expect from a 3 litre straight six in D or Sport or manual i.e. tiptronic as we all know it, it just touches the red line when you are in a hurry before changing up, Comment Sport mode holds about 200 - 300 more rpm before the up change, pulls all the way till it needs another gear. A petrol 280 or 320 could well be on the cards. e.g. of short trips Previous golf run was 30+ miles now it's just under 8 that's twice a week in the winter and 3 or 4 times in the summer. Stratford to ASDA at Leamington once a month up to Halesowen twice a month and down to Devon 4 or 5 times a year + 1 Cumbria trip if it's my year to drive. On the long runs keeping just under the new motorway limit of 80mph it will return 35 / 36 mpg which is OK IMO.
     
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    One for Alex, Do you know Naked wins dot com? Have found them very good, and much to my astonishment some countries other than France do make very drinkable reds, I would never have known that or believed it up until relitavely recently.
     
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    much the same average fuel economy I got from a 124 series 280TE some years ago - although your car is much quicker. I think 27 from a large powerful car is really acceptable.
     
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    I have not come across them. Can you buy it locally?
     
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    I know a specialist that works on both marques.

    BMW has better body work and rust prevention end of.

    There is a myth about Mercedes lasting longer mechanically. The reasons BMW don't is that the servicing regime of 2 years 20k miles pleased fleet buyers, not the cars.

    Owners of BMWs are reluctant apparently to spend £45 on a filter for the Turbo at the inspection 2 service. Replacing that is paramount for the life of the Turbo. The smaller BMW diesels he says are dreadful with the swirl flaps coming off and into the engine, lunching it. However for £300 you can buy a modified manifold that does without these.

    He did say the best overall small diesel is the 220cdi but he's much less impressed with the V6CDi. If I were buying again, I would look at a 330d or 335d, I don't like the E60 5 series, I would also look at the F10 5 series. I'd also look at the 220cdi C class and 220cdi 211. I doubt I would go for a V6CDi again given all the inlet port shut off motor issues and that I do not like 7g.
     
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    Alex they are online only.
     
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    Have to agree with St4 about the BMWs.. The turbo filter or crankcase filter or oil seperator ..its call lots of things.. I always replace. But there is a cheaper insert filter available also from BMW..
    To my mind the best petrol BMW is the 535i...The best diesel is the 525d..
    The 5351 petrol V8 is more economical and torquier than the straight6 3 lt
    The 525d doesnt have the swirl flaps or the turbo and manifold problems of the 530d
     
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    Nice bit of info?

    How come though. I thought the 25d was a 3000cc just detuned. Ala 320cdi and 280cdi. Now I am very tempted to get a 325d (not an E60 fan) in a couple of years when I will probably "want" another car.

    In saying that, do we have any cases of 280cdi cars with manifold/inlet port shut off motor/linkage issues?

    Always seems to be 320cdi owners that post, but that car is more common?
     
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    Er ... have I just logged on to the wrong forum?

    Baz
     
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    I know exactly what you mean. I took out a new 330i a few years back. Compared to my 5 year old w202 220 it was sharper, massively faster & better in every measurable way. Did I place an order? No. Got back in my c and had all I could think was - my car is SO nice!
     
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    Hope not Steve;)
     
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    I'll be very interested to hear about 280cdi's.

    It seems that its the more powerful engine that seems to end up with this fault. From the forums its all been 320cdi E and C classes.

    Does anyone know what parts are different on a 280cdi? I believe from Mactech on the otherside the only different is the injectors and the engine mapping.
     

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