20" Rims on a W140 S-Class....

[chodecz]

Hi guys,

Now some of you might object to my taste, but I want to put 20" rims on a W140 (when I find a good one to buy).

Are there any pitfalls in fitting such large rims? Personally I think they suit the car just right, 17"s or 18"s just look too small for such a mammoth car.

I'm not looking to get some cheap boy racer alloys, or some tacky looking Kahns I've seen on some W140's.

MB has a standard 5 stud pattern, yes? What offset does the W140 have? What tyre size should I go for, I would want low profile tyres - will this make the ride unbareable??

I've attached a photo of the 20" rims I want to get..

Please, any advice will be greatly appreciated (even if you do disagree with my taste)!

 

[Blobcat]

It is worth a read of this. As it lists the correct offset and sizing. MB wheels are hubcentric which means they centre via the hub and not via the wheel nuts/bolts. Therefore any aftermarket rims will need to do the same or have a suitable adaptor spacer otherwise the wheels will wobble.

 

[television]

Had a guy round today with an almost new A8 on 20" rims. So far he has got through 3 wheels and 5 tires on pot holes in 15k miles.

I do not think that you will ever balance those things on an MB, thats if you can get them on in the first place.

Malcolm

 

[chodecz]

Television: Really? Did they buckle, etc??

I found these: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/20-O...960QQitemZ330101097479QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW

..they look a bit shabby, but will 45 offset be okay? As the official offset should be 35, please let me know, thanks.

 

[lackofgrip]

personally id go for 18's with a 45 or 50 profile tyre to keep the comfort of the ride mate. one of the lads i knew put 20's on his car and it ruined the ride quality.

 

[lackofgrip]

also look out for hairline cracks in the edges of second hand alloys. i made this mistake once will never buy second hand alloys again. :-|

 

[television]

Television: Really? Did they buckle, etc??

I found these: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/20-O...960QQitemZ330101097479QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW

..they look a bit shabby, but will 45 offset be okay? As the official offset should be 35, please let me know, thanks.

I lost 2 wheels and tires on my V70R in 2 weeks owing to the low profile tires, they were 205 x 40 x 17", Tires at £200 each min as well, also 10mm + on the off set is not good as the tires could foul the wings.

Malcolm

 

[eric242340]

From the picture you posted, you have the newer model V12 S600? or was this an add-on badge? If its the 140 600 then the suspension is hydraulic and therefore adjustable. So body contact will not be an issue, and I feel your taste is ok. But the ride will be questionable. Also the steering stops may not be long enough to stop the front wheels hitting the mud guards/chassis, especially with low profile tyres. Just a couple of pints, but nothing that cant be altered. PS i love the new Brabus wheels, check them out first.

 

[television]

From the picture you posted, you have the newer model V12 S600? or was this an add-on badge? If its the 140 600 then the suspension is hydraulic and therefore adjustable. So body contact will not be an issue, and I feel your taste is ok. But the ride will be questionable. Also the steering stops may not be long enough to stop the front wheels hitting the mud guards/chassis, especially with low profile tyres. Just a couple of pints, but nothing that cant be altered. PS i love the new Brabus wheels, check them out first.

first there is no WDB140600 There is a 140056, if it is a this one, then those wheels cannot be used on this car.

Eric are you suggesting that he uses them an runs on the Max height setting or what.

Malcolm

 

[eric242340]

first there is no WDB140600 There is a 140056, if it is a this one, then those wheels cannot be used on this car.

Eric are you suggesting that he uses them an runs on the Max height setting or what.

Malcolm

Yes Malcolm, not the maximum ride hight but adjust to a sensible level. And im refering to the 140 chassis 600 badge. 12 cyl. Does that clarify it. And ive said the ride might not be too good. Also the possiblity of the front stops not being long enough to prevent contact with the inner wing/mud guards and chassis.

 

[television]

You say eric, nothing that cant be altered ???????? are you sure as this could be a WDB140056.

Malcolm

 

[rajinder_1]

Anteras

Hi,
Instead of the brabus rims go for anteras, they do flater the car and imo look better, a friend of mine had 20" anteras on his W140 coupe see below:



I have chrome 18s on my c class i dont think i would buy chrome again partly due to the care needed to look after them, i got mine around 4 yrs ago look below:


thats my 2ps worth...

Raj

 

[eric242340]

Hi,
Instead of the brabus rims go for anteras, they do flater the car and imo look better, a friend of mine had 20" anteras on his W140 coupe see below:
View attachment 2960


I have chrome 18s on my c class i dont think i would buy chrome again partly due to the care needed to look after them, i got mine around 4 yrs ago look below:
View attachment 2961

thats my 2ps worth...

Raj

Would still go with Brabus, personal preference

 

[television]

Would still go with Brabus, personal preference

He still should not fit them if it is a 140056, very dangerous.

 

[ben12345]

The 10mm offset difference isn't really a problem. You could purchase some hubcentric spacers to bring the wheels back out to where they should be, so they avoid hitting the inner wheel arch.
There is probably some give in the fitment anyway, I run 13mm offset wheels on my 126, which originally came with 25mm offset bundts.
Like many others suggest though, it would be very easy to buckle the wheels and ruin tyres upsizing that much.
I have a bit of meat in my sidewalls still, only running 17's, and have been lucky so far.

 

[television]

The 10mm offset difference isn't really a problem.

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Ben, those wheels are + 10 so you cant use spacers, it would make it worse.
the car would be very unstable on them.

 

[ben12345]

Malcolm, not trying to teach my grandmother to suck eggs or anything, but adding a spacer to a 45mm offset wheel will reduce the figure and cause the wheel to move outwards.
I used to have 46mm offset E class W210 wheels on my W126, and using a 25mm spacer to get the equivilent offset into the 'ball park', they fitted my car a dream.

 

[ben12345]

See here for further explanation:
http://www.driverstechnology.co.uk/wheel-offset.htm

 

[television]

Malcolm, not trying to teach my grandmother to suck eggs or anything, but adding a spacer to a 45mm offset wheel will reduce the figure and cause the wheel to move outwards.
I used to have 46mm offset E class W210 wheels on my W126, and using a 25mm spacer to get the equivilent offset into the 'ball park', they fitted my car a dream.

The 140 Ben, uses an offset of 35 these wheels are 45 so they will sit further out by 10mm each side, any form of spacer can only make it worse.

This car if a 140056 also has ESP and this puts those wheels right out of spec for this car.

 

[ben12345]

45mm means they will sit tighter to the inside by 10mm if the car uses 35mm offset as standard. I think your referring to negative offset which is measured on the opposite side of the centreline, which is very uncommon on passenger cars.