2017 AMG GTC - Next Project Car?

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Keep in mind he said right as well. I can't imagine it was meant as a personal statement
 

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Must be something more than just an engine, otherwise it wouldn't have been written off?
I wouldn't be too sure on that. Insurers tend to write off cars that have been flooded, simply because of the potential future problems. My mate bought an AM a while ago that had been flooded and written off. Cheap as chips from copart. All it needed apart from thorough cleaning was a Ford sam unit to sort it out and then coding. He had no problems with it, even though it was an AM.
 

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I wouldn't be too sure on that. Insurers tend to write off cars that have been flooded, simply because of the potential future problems. My mate bought an AM a while ago that had been flooded and written off. Cheap as chips from copart. All it needed apart from thorough cleaning was a Ford sam unit to sort it out and then coding. He had no problems with it, even though it was an AM.
Suppose the adjusters are people too, and not infallible.
 

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I think it's an interesting path to go down, if you've the money and balls for it you could end up with the bargain of the century. You'd also need either a fully equipped workshop of your own and the skills or a tame/friendly garage. My luck I'd end up with a written off lemon that's a lemon even after repairs....
 

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I think that’s possibly the difference, if you can do it all yourself then it can make sense, however if you have to pay an hourly rate for someone to do it all for you, then no so much
 

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Suppose the adjusters are people too, and not infallible.
They are I might even know one or two with the company I work for :p
That said, their calculations on flood damage aren’t just about component damage now and in the future but also the health side of cleaning/repairing, they often don’t know the exact details of the “flood” and therefore have to assume it may have contaminated water throughout the car, that leads to needing to strip it out and deep clean/sterilise more than just what you can see, including replacing the entire ventilation system as it’s a breading ground for bacteria anyway.
 
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The one point that's making me very caution above all else is the complexity of the engine which I believe is the M178, by comparison the M113K is a relatively simple one to strip down and work on.
 

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They are I might even know one or two with the company I work for :p
That said, their calculations on flood damage aren’t just about component damage now and in the future but also the health side of cleaning/repairing, they often don’t know the exact details of the “flood” and therefore have to assume it may have contaminated water throughout the car, that leads to needing to strip it out and deep clean/sterilise more than just what you can see, including replacing the entire ventilation system as it’s a breading ground for bacteria anyway.
Hadn't thought of that, extremely good point, guess that's relevant if you're intention is to sell it on as you'd probably need to evidence that....
 

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A few years ago I wrote off a 2 week old 600mile CLS in a flooded road. I stopped just before the flood, had a look, it didn't look too deep (famous last words) then inched forward. By the time the water was up to just over the centre of the wheels, I decided to stop & reverse out. That was the exact time the engine stopped. I did not try to restart it & climbed out. Car taken to Mercedes who said the computers were fried & possible engine damage. They did not check anything. Car written off. About a month later I was contacted by a salvage firm asking if I had the spare key which I sent to them. The guy said it was being put back on the road. No engine damage, just electrical & obviously water into the car when I had opened the door to get out.
 
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Update:

Bid went up to £39500.00 (I pulled out at £30k), I believe the reserve was not met and the highest offer was subject to acceptance.

I'm not at all surprised at the final bid given the nature of some small garages who have the expertise at a fraction of the cost of independent specialists.

Good feed back from the guys on the forum, thank you!!
 

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Bid went up to £39500.00 (I pulled out at £30k), I believe the reserve was not met and the highest offer was subject to acceptance.

I'm not at all surprised at the final bid given the nature of some small garages who have the expertise at a fraction of the cost of independent specialists.

Good feed back from the guys on the forum, thank you!!
Bit gutted you didn't get it, I was looking forward to a fascinating restoration post, then giving you 41.5k for it when you'd finished ;)
 
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I'm currently exploring an E63 S, no harm in keep one foot in LOL.

Got to keep shooting in the hope of scoring a good one...............
 

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impressed you set yourself a limit and didn't go beyond it pal , some folk get carried away far too easily
 
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I did a quick search and would have looked to import one from Germany, having said that I would have stripped this one down first to understand the extent of the damage in the first instance. Would then have looked at cost of repair vs replacement.
 

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Must admit I was nosey enough to try too find an engine price and couldn't easily find it via the usual channels...
 

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Complete engine:

just the block:

 

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Complete engine:

just the block:

Bargains ! Might have had to give him 42k after the restoration then..... :oops:
 
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