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anyone have an opinion on 4matic pitfalls i am going to get a 4x4 , looked at vw touareg 3 lt auto ,quite liked that a 2010 model asking 11,500 euro at 127k miles , then thought well all cars ,4 at moment are benz and i am a little geared up for them so thats why i am asking.
 

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No problems with the drive train on my R Class. I would discount the VW due to its automated manual DSG auto gearbox .... but that's just me.:)
 

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Mate of mine has a 2012 Toureg 3lt diesel with 47k miles on it, took it to our local respected German marque specialist this morning for a routine service, discovered leak on camshaft cover which is known to lead to sudden and total oil loss. Apparently a known problem with this engine as VW re-designed the gasket at some point. Long story short, it's prop shaft and gearbox out, turbo off, fuel rail and injectors off, no car for a week as it's 4 days work, and a hefty 4 figure bill. I've suggested he hunt the VW forums to see if anyone has had luck with a goodwill payment from VW, but don't hold out much hope as car was bought second hand but not from VW, and does not AFAIK have a full VW service history.
 

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Touaregs had issues with propshaft bearings - not sure if that's still the case at that vintage.
 

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No problems with the drive train on my R Class. I would discount the VW due to its automated manual DSG auto gearbox .... but that's just me.:)
I don't think the 3ltr diesel has a DSG box. Think it's a torque converter auto - but VAG do use CVTs a fair bit on the smaller models (reknowned for eating clutch packs).
 

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I don't think the 3ltr diesel has a DSG box. Think it's a torque converter auto -
I don't know for certain .... just assumed


but VAG do use CVTs a fair bit on the smaller models (reknowned for eating clutch packs).
Does a CVT use a clutch pack? :confused: When I hear CVT, I automatically think rubber band Daf Variomatic :D
 
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thanks guys. shame twas a nice drive , surprised at power from engine and interior buildquality ,which seemed very good,will do more research. would love a diesel auto swb G ,had three previously, but good ones are hard to sourse and are very strong money for age ..
 

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A mate of mine has had a Tuoareg for the last 2 years with no problems.
Lets not pretend 4matics don't have issues.
 

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My XC90 is permanent 4wd and 2.0d pushing out around 240hp and it works well, Volvo have improved their auto box beyond all recognition. Have to say it’s a nice drive. Just wish they had done a 3.0V6 or even IL6, but they have one Diesel engine only in that model. And much as though I’d have liked it the T8 was just a step too far!
 

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I intend to keep my 4Matic for at least 10 years, what issues might I expect?

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I doubt you’ll have any (or any more than any other MB), the 4matic system is proven it’s only just we haven’t had access to it so much in the UK before
 

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personally, id say unless you have the need for a 4x4, buy a decent 2wd car. not only are you reducing weight and therefore fuel consumption and saving on things like RFL but you are also removing a degree of complexity (ie the 4wd system) that needn't be added into the equation if you have no need for it. its the main reason I haven't been running around in old Land Rovers for years!
 

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A lad at work has a V10 Tourarag, and he's has those problems

The V10TDi has numerous problems but when it works it is incredible

I like the Toerag, a friend has a '06 for 6 years and 120k with no issues. Not a DSG box on a '10 plate IIRC
 

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My work colleague here has a Touareg with stupid badging on it (begins with a P :p), but he’s a bit of a moron so wouldn’t know what a good car was or otherwise....it’s a 3.0d seems ok
 
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have heard v10 good drive as well ,but will be crap on fuel and no damn room around engine i would imagine, i already have one like that ,i think v6 a good comination of power ,ecconomy and access. will continue to look but will also keep at 4matic and touareg, need 4x4 to pull caravan around .
 

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I intend to keep my 4Matic for at least 10 years, what issues might I expect?

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I have no idea but can you guarantee you wont have a problem. All cars are pretty good nowadays if well maintained and looked after.
 

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Some of those V10s have had issues with timing gears wearing and destroying the engine. Sounds almost familiar....
 

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anyone have an opinion on 4matic pitfalls .


USA did class action lawsuit and all got a new £7K gearbox fitted for free (after designed to fail irreplaceable bearing fault trashed the unit). UK is DIY
 


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