Acetone in petrol improves economy???

[mercmonkey]

http://www.pureenergysystems.com/news/2005/03/17/6900069_Acetone/

does this work????

 

[Stulc]

Sound believable.....but then so do alot of thing's, someone will be along shortly to say ye/ne.

 

[mike65]

It does work, you have to be pretty careful with the ratio. Too much or little makes economy worse. I think the ideal is about 30 mill per 50 litre.

Mike.

 

[3146bj]

As an ex major oil company engineer, my comment on this is that everyone is entitled to their dreams. The "science" quoted just does not stand up. This is in the same class as the devices that "align the fuel's magnetic field with the car's" to improve your fuel consumption by 150%!!!!! Strictly for the birds.

If you really want to improve your fuel economy, change your driving style or the time of day you travel to minimise changes in speed. And if you are doing a comparison of fuels, run your test for a month or so to minimise the effect of the variables, such as speed, traffic density and flows, weather and variations in fuel quality. One trip comparisons are more likely to highlight differences in driving technique (using 4000 RPM instead of 4500 change point) or traffic flow than to show up fuel differences. Even ambient temperature has an effect through changes in tyre pressures (and thus drag from the road) and intake air density (although injection mass flow meters correct for some of this change now).

 

[oigle]

Well said 3146bj.

As an ex oil company employee myself, I could only applaud your comments. Why anyone would think oil companies would not sieze such a marketing advantage for themselves, if it were viable, is beyond me. I'm afraid this also applies to lots of "additives" on the market, purporting to improve oil and fuels. If they were any good, the oil companies would be using them. They must think the oil companies employ idiots for chemists instead of the best people available in the field.

Enough said!!

 

[jberks]

Every complex industry has myths. Apart from the Y2k (when all us techies made a killing on the back of a virtual non event) I remember spending many happy hours in the cab office trying to explain to my fellow drivers why the statistical computer program they'd bought to analyze lottery numbers wasn't worth the disk it came on.

The only exception I guess is the chipping you can do to turbo diesels, which really does work but then there are allegedly good reasons for manufacturers to detune them.

 

[Stulc]

What about the story years ago my dad told back in the 70's, about someone somewhere that had invented and internal combustion engine that ran on water or something very similar...one of the oil companies bullied/threatened him and bought his right's then shelved it, because they seemingly wouldn't make their BILLION'S.

Now I dont know if there's any truth in this but I allway's remember he said that, now again maybe some was kidding him too I dont know, but it's not the first time Iv'e heard this over the years.

 

[42864]

I think that you will find that that is one of those Urban Myths.

Dave

 

[Stulc]

Yea and there's plenty of them!...oh well that'll be that then.....

 

[angus falconer]

The only exception I guess is the chipping you can do to turbo diesels, which really does work but then there are allegedly good reasons for manufacturers to detune them.

Well, I think the issue here is that poisonous emissions go through the roof when you do this to a diesel........so the people behind you certainly end up paying.

 

[mike65]

I've seen some pretty detailed stuff (okay on the web!) about this. I have'nt
tried it myself naturally as I'm lazy.

Oh yes, what are the chances of two an oil industry peeeps from Australia posting on this board!?

Mike.

 

[television]

My understanding on chipping is the car makers have to produce a car that will run in any country, certainly the partical output is increased chipping a deisel.

Malcolm

 

[3146bj]

What about the story years ago my dad told back in the 70's, about someone somewhere that had invented and internal combustion engine that ran on water or something very similar...one of the oil companies bullied/threatened him and bought his right's then shelved it, because they seemingly wouldn't make their BILLION'S.

Now I dont know if there's any truth in this but I allway's remember he said that, now again maybe some was kidding him too I dont know, but it's not the first time Iv'e heard this over the years.

Yeah, I've heard this one in the '70's, '80's, '90's, but not yet in the '00's. The guy who invented it has been in the States,Germany, England, Western Australia, Queensland and Tasmania and it was Shell, BP, Mobil, and Caltex who bullied/killed/intimidated/paid him off. It has run on water, air, waste oil, or any liquid you can think off and some you probably don't want to know about.

 

[television]

My understanding on chipping is the car makers have to produce a car that will run in any country, certainly the partical output is increased chipping a deisel.

Malcolm

I think that I stand to be corrected, the partical output is the same or less.
the results on this Swedish chip maker's site are impressive.






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