ahoy friends...i need advice

[ancient_mariner]

hi guys ! i am glad to be part of the forum. i want to buy a used mercedes. i am frustrated. i want a family car for 4. i am down to B180diesel.(lot of miles and trips-if coronaV allow us) i have found b180 d 2018 used and b180d 2019 with the new MBUX and facelift. but the price goes up another 6000euros(5200 pounds). whats your advice on this? does it worth to invest more money on the newest model or go with a 2018 model with very low milage and have the 2nd generation look.
thanks for your time and help, keep it up

Reno

 

[Blobcat]

Hello and welcome

With the way the world has changed I’d ask why do you need a diesel?
Modern ones with ad-blue and DPF’s do not like short journeys or not being used for awhile. I’d be looking for a petrol in almost all cases now.

 

[AMGeed]

I'd be looking for a petrol C class for your family of 4 within your budget. They really are nicer than the B class.

 

[mioba]

Sod it, I would be looking for an older E class vis a vis the price a 2 y old B class . OP where are you based

 

[Wearsafoxhat]

Good morning, as an owner of a B180d, they are nice cars but... for a family of two adults and two small kids with a case or two it would be fine. The rear seats move forwards for more luggage or back for bigger people, less luggage.
If you have four adult sized people I would look for a bigger car, C or a nice E for comfort and space.
I have never driven ours with four people and luggage but imagine that it would be fairly underpowered.


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[A.J.]

Hi Reno, welcome to the forum.

 

[RhodieBill]

As others have said - go petrol - go C-Class Estate......

 

[ancient_mariner]

why petrol? so many diesel on market now with 20.000klmon odo. 2018 models and 2019 if i raise my budget. my anual expenses with petrol is 500 pounds more per year.
is c 180 2016, 2017 good models? also..GLA 180?
thanks for your time guys. i am very frustrated. i dont know what to do. i have seen so many cars...

fuel prices on greece right now.
petrol 1.6euro (1.375 pounds) per litre
diesel 1.3euro (1.11 pounds) per litre

 

[Blobcat]

why petrol? so many diesel on market now with 20.000klmon odo. 2018 models and 2019 if i raise my budget. my anual expenses with petrol is 500 pounds more per year.
is c 180 2016, 2017 good models? also..GLA 180?
thanks for your time guys. i am very frustrated. i dont know what to do. i have seen so many cars...

How many miles do you cover per year?
Where do you drive (town centre, country, motorway)?
Short journeys (4 miles or less)?
As I said at the start the world has changed

 

[ancient_mariner]

How many miles do you cover per year?
Where do you drive (town centre, country, motorway)?
Short journeys (4 miles or less)?
As I said at the start the world has changed

fuel prices on greece right now.
petrol 1.6euro (1.375 pounds) per litre
diesel 1.3euro (1.11 pounds) per litre

i am doing around 12-14.000 miles per year
40 miles per day almost
mostly on motorway.

 

[Blobcat]

fuel prices on greece right now.
petrol 1.6euro (1.375 pounds) per litre
diesel 1.3euro (1.11 pounds) per litre

i am doing around 12-14.000 miles per year
40 miles per day almost
mostly on motorway.

Have a search around the forum for DOF, NOX Sensor and Ad Blue, there’s many a thread with ££££ fixes that would more than counteract the fuel savings.
Greece might have different emissions rules although doubtful with being in Europe.
Lots of issues with software updates as well that then bring on other problem.

 

[ancient_mariner]

Have a search around the forum for DOF, NOX Sensor and Ad Blue, there’s many a thread with ££££ fixes that would more than counteract the fuel savings.
Greece might have different emissions rules although doubtful with being in Europe.
Lots of issues with software updates as well that then bring on other problem.

i believe b180d 2018 is the last of 2nd generation. i think whatever problems had at the last models are solved, most of the time. or am i wrong?

 

[Blobcat]

i believe b180d 2018 is the last of 2nd generation. i think whatever problems had at the last models are solved, most of the time. or am i wrong?

It’s modern diesels that are having the problems not the old ones. The problems are pretty much all caused by the emissions equipment bolted on to meet the environmental requirements.
Anything diesel that meets Euro 6 can have seriously issues. Without a Mercedes warranty I wouldn’t entertain a new diesel (I had 1 for 18 months from new it was amazing for that time)

 

[ancient_mariner]

It’s modern diesels that are having the problems not the old ones. The problems are pretty much all caused by the emissions equipment bolted on to meet the environmental requirements.
Anything diesel that meets Euro 6 can have seriously issues. Without a Mercedes warranty I wouldn’t entertain a new diesel (I had 1 for 18 months from new it was amazing for that time)

so i understand that in the long run you will pay the price. i had a vitara 2016 DDIS 4x4 diesel which is sold. kept it for 5 years with 50.000 miles...i hadnt any problem. actually the money i saved from fuel price i lost them when i sold the car. thanks blob. so what about B200 petrol 2019 model?

 

[00slk]

Hello and welcome

I wont be much use as I only go for cars that are totally unpractical