Am gutted - someone please help! :(

[wingz123]

I am due to drive to Spain on Sunday. The heater motor packed up in my W210 facelift E-Class. I ordered another one off EBay and went to test it to make sure it worked off my jump pack. Hooked it up and as it did so it spun out of my hands and crashed to the floor.

So now that one is broken too!!! Today is Thursday and I am leaving to go on Sunday evening!!!!

Its the plastic fan its self that has broken but I still have the old one (this isn't broken it was just the motor itself)

So question - Is there someway of getting the fan off the old one onto the electric motor on the new one as it looks like the plastic fan is pressed on....

If this doesn't work will one from a 2001 Vito 108CDi fit??

Someone please help.....I NEEEED a heater not for myself but for my 2 year old daughter as I drive through the Pyranees - It will get to about -8 up there....

 

[mattkh]

Hi
Put up 2 pictures of the two heater blowers.

 

[stevenN]

The fan may just pull off.
Mine did when I changed the brushes in the motor a month or two ago.
Try supporting the fan and drive the motor shaft out with a similar sized punch.
Mine didn't need much force to remove it and it pushed back onto the shaft just fine

 

[television]

It could just be the carbon brushes worn out, but on a no rusty shaft the fan part may pull off, try it on the one that is broken, it is on the large size but freezing it could help or get a can of freezer from any builder merchants

 

[wingz123]

Ok guys, when it fell on the floor the plastic cracked and all but three are holding it now.

I have annotated the below picture and the red shows what has cracked and no longer being held. Like I say, only three remain in tact...

 

[television]

Can you poke something down one of the slots to see if it can be levered off

 

[stevenN]

Have a go at what I suggested.
Sit with the fan between your knees and a cushion on the floor.
Knock the motor shaft out of the fan with a suitable drift or screwdriver.
You don't need a lot of force just bottle
At this stage you have nothing to loose
And if you were close by I would do it for you

 

[television]

The only snag there Steven is that will put a lot of strain on the fan at its weakest points, it is the center part that needs levering off

 

[Xtractorfan]

As the fan is already broken break off the outer part and then you can do as suggested and drift the fan off the shaft...
The other remedy is to take both fans along to a engineering place and they will change the fans for you

 

[stevenN]

The only snag there Steven is that will put a lot of strain on the fan at its weakest points, it is the center part that needs levering off

I appreciate that but how else is it going to come off?
I would suggest warmth rather than cold.
Cold would make the plastic fan more susceptible to cracking.
I had to remove mine twice. One to diagnose the brush failure and again at the repair.

I'm sure a motor repairer may have a puller with arms that will grip behind the fins but as one fan is broken I would experiment on that one to see what's feasible.

 

[wingz123]

stevenN I have a puller but as the plastic things are broken it hasnt really got anything to grip!

 

[stevenN]

No I bet people who deal with this kind of thing day in day out will probably have a tool to grip plastic behind the fan.

I think I started to remove mine by using a screwdriver as a lever.
As soon as I could see it moving I used the method I suggested before.
As you have the one with the broken fan to practice on give it a try. It will have to come off at some stage

 

[c15htn]

Totally off the wall thought - could you not to attach the broken one using epoxy / chemical metal or something similar?

 

[lwbnick]

Totally off the wall thought - could you not to attach the broken one using epoxy / chemical metal or something similar?

Once they're broken, they're finished, they spin so fast that if they're out of balance they just self destruct.

Time to shop for a new one.

 

[wingz123]

Once they're broken, they're finished, they spin so fast that if they're out of balance they just self destruct.

Time to shop for a new one.

My friend suggested this but yes, I can see how it would be out of balance...

bet it would make one hell of a racket too....

 

[mattkh]

.....I have annotated the below picture and the red shows what has cracked and no longer being held. Like I say, only three remain in tact...

Hi
The solution is a hot staple.
Heat a small pin on a blow torch or a cooker flame and then push it onto the two ends.
Repeat for each crack.

 

[television]

If you look closely a the fan part you may see balance marks on the fan, the balance as said is critical and you cannot glue this stuff as it has aged too much

 

[lwbnick]

My friend suggested this but yes, I can see how it would be out of balance...

bet it would make one hell of a racket too....

The have those staple bits on them to balance them, once bits are misssing it will just shake itself to bits.

Just buy a new one.

 

[lwbnick]

Hi
The solution is a hot staple.
Heat a small pin on a blow torch or a cooker flame and then push it onto the two ends.
Repeat for each crack.

The solution is to go down the scrap yard and buy a new one.

 

[NW_Merc]

1) Go to eurocarparts
2) Give them your VIN or reg no.
3) Ask them for heater/blower motor
4) Pay for item
5) Take home
6) Remove old blower motor
7) Remove resistor from motor
8) Fit resistor to new motor
9) Refit blower motor
10) Go have a brew

Please dont bother with the various fixes that are being suggested. The motor will fail if it hasnt already. Get a new one for peace of mind