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Hi

Two points on this:

1) If I really want to buy a car I've seen advertised then everytime, without fail I would GO and VIEW it myself, in person! - I have to be 100% satisfied. If the car is simply too far away and viewing isn't possible then that car just isn't the one.

I travelled by train from Surrey to York to view one of my cars and the very nice garage collected me from the station. When I agreed to buy it they even delivered the car to my front door on a trailer the following weekend for no extra charge - now that's service.

2) Anyone who writes that much speil on an advert is an instant turn off in my opinion and walk away very quickly. All you want to know are the facts about a used car not fluffy lifestyle Bulls**t.

To quote a few lines from the ad description:

NOTHING LESS THAN A FLOATING CLOUD! -......OK what's that got to do with anything, didn't the Care Bears use to drive a cloud mobile in the 80's????

In September 1979 Mercedes Benz, launched the greatest ever luxury production motor car ever built - the W126 S Class. - ....maybe but what's that got to do with this used one for sale?

It's very presence is one that instantly creates respect and admiration - .....yes I'm sure it did when it was brand new

Favoured by the rich and famous as well as diplomats the world over, it is worth mentioning that each could have easily afforded Rolls Royce or Bentley, yet opted instead for Mercedes, for their first choice in luxury motoring. - .....Maybe, but how do you know it was someones first choice? The Bentley or Rolls waiting list might simply have been too long at the time so they went for their second choice - who knows, who cares??? It's potentially you buying it now, that's what matters!

The vehicle you are about to view, is testament to that time. A true ascending period motor car of exacting standards, due to an uncompromised past, coupled with our expertise. A 1990 W126 420 V8 SEDAN.......- oh my god, please spare me the BS



I'm sorry but in my opinion the warning signs are cleary there for all to see and alarm bells should be ringing.
 
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If you pay via paypal and do it through a credit card, if you get ripped off and the seller just ignores you and eBay wont help, the card company will retrieve your money. You will be surprised the difference in attitude adopted by paypal if the payment was funded by credit card and not instant bank transfer or paypal balance. Barry
 

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Because the seller asked E Bay to remove it! How good is that??? Like I said, E Bay are useless

I still don't get why your feedback was removed. As a regular eBay trader and buyer, I know just how difficult it is to get eBay to do ANYTHING with feedback left by members. What did it say??
 
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I still don't get why your feedback was removed. As a regular eBay trader and buyer, I know just how difficult it is to get eBay to do ANYTHING with feedback left by members. What did it say??

I have to say that E Bay were most unhelpful in this transaction. The seller delivered the car to me in Holyhead and I loaded it on the boat after a short test drive and went home happy. On my drive from Dublin to my house (60 miles) all the issues started to appear and as the days passed the list simply grew.

The seller said he would bear the cost of whatever was wrong via e mail and phone but since then I have heard nothing.

So I left feedback about a week afterwards - a simple one saying beware of fantasised descriptions. Two days later it was removed by e bay and then we had three weeks of e mail chatter with e bay, most of which was computer generated BS. I did, however manage to get in touch with their legal department and my solicitor spoke with them. I was sent a 'gift' from e bay of £100 which I accepted without prejudice.

E Bay removed the feedback the seller left for me as they believed it to be defamatory. Even that didnt move E Bay to act upon the seller.

The PayPal refund thing only works because its done via credit card and the CC companies cover you, not PayPal

Viewing cars/items is not always practical and you have to rely on the sellers description. I purchase lots of items from Germany and I cant go over there to see them every time. I bought a VW Passat 4motion for my son from a guy in Newcastle without seeing it beforehand. His description was also a massive document but was accurate down to the last. 100,000 miles later we still have the car and it runs like a watch and I would have no problem buying again from that man.

The idea of this post is to warn people of this particular seller but it seems to be heading off at a tangent. Notice how he keeps his bidders hidden.
 

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What was wrong with the car?.
 

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I only mentioned funding paypal purchases by credit card because paypal suddenly become very helpful to the wronged buyer when they know the card company will take the money back from them. Otherwise they dont seem interested. A few years back I bought a satnav disc for a Rover 75 from a seller who had sold loads with good feedback. When the disc arrived it was a an illegal copy, which wasn't mentioned in the selling spiel. Not too bothered about that but it didn't work. Emailed the seller and told no problem a replacement would be sent. 3 weeks later no replacement and no answer to my other emails. Started a dispute through paypal who asked me to take it to a Rover dealer to get their opinion. I pointed out that they had all gone bust and that it was a copy. They said there was nothing else they could do and I was left to contemplate my loss. As it was only £15 or so it wasn't the end of the world but I was extremely narked by the fact that they go on about buyer protection but there doesn't seem to be any. I left him negative feedback and the cheeky s*d did the same to me. Needless to say after a couple of months he disappeared. Ever since I will only buy through paypal when I fund it through a credit card. Barry
 

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Name and shame I say then when he advertises a car again forum members can ask awkward questions about his false warranties etc.. and wrong descriptions..
 
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What was wrong with the car?.

It was a 230TE with 130,000 on the clock and bearing in mind the description this is what went wrong with it within minutes of getting her on Irish soil.....

Exhaust mount on the front section broke
Joint between the front and rear sections split
Wouldn't rev above 2500 and refused to downchange
Fuel pump relay failed twice
Both fuel pumps seized
Rear wheel bearing failed
Front wheel bearing failed
Brake pads worn beyond belief
Rear washer didn't work
Electric ariel didn't work properly
Tape deck didn't work
Heater blower motor failed
Interior lights blew
Rear wiper failed
Downshift switch failed
N/S electric mirror failed
Three different types (not makes) of spark plug fitted
Side indicators fell out
Huge bubble on spare wheel
New battery that was fitted turned out to be 3 years old and had to be replaced

In addition he claimed that the oil pressure gauge was faulty but it wasn't, but the oil in the engine was p**s. The car hadn't seen a service in ages in spite of the book being stamped. Once replenished the gauge worked fine. With all of the above sorted it started missing around 4000rpm and this was traced to cap, leads and rotor.
I gave her a mother of a service and now she runs fine 99% of the time - occasional missing in the morning.

And then there is the paintwork ....... in spite of his description of being perfect and original it had had a respray all over bar the roof. I didnt notice until I started to take stuff off to fix that I discovered it. The drivers and passengers rear doors are off another car cuz inside they are blue.

Anyway its running smoothly now as a Mercedes should and only now is it anywhere near the sellers description but at a cost of almost €800 in parts and a further €500 in specialist labour. Had I not been able to do most of it myself it would have cost a lot more

So would you buy a car from this seller

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/TOTALLY-IMMAC...ewItemQQptZAutomobiles_UK?hash=item4149cc0f8a

His photographs of the car look fantastic but then so did mine

PS. All of the about is documented with photos and is recorded/witnessed by a Mercedes specialist and leading bodyshop.
 
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I thought the ad was quite an entertaining read, if rather overblown.

He needs to do a spell check though, and his grammar is not too hot.

The pics and history sound good though, but the waffle would put me off.

Seems like he's trying too hard.

Someone mentioned eloquence - I suggest they look the meaning of the word up in the dictionary and then read that ad again. I must thank them though for making me laugh out loud.:p:p:p
 

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Just a thought - perhaps the writer is a frustrated poet - I've never, ever, heard of a car being described as a floating cloud before.
 

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Could be because he was smoking one of those funny ciggies. Barry
 
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I think he's over optimistic on the power front. My 560sel was only 300bhp so I doubt the 420se is 275. If he hasn't even bothered to find out this correct information, I would doubt the veracity of everything else he is saying.
 

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