Anyone know what dipstick would fit?

[rf065]

We all know some Mercedes have no dipsticks, well I've taken the engine cover off mine (2005 Model CLK220CDi) & contrary to what I've been told, the dipstick tube is still there.

Does anyone have a part number for a dipstick that would slot into this dipstick tube & give the correct oil level. (red plastic cap on end in photo)

The only problem I can see is that the engine cover sits on top of the red plastic plug (there is actually a small dent on the underside of the engine cover where the red plug sits directly against it) & if the dipstick is higher then the plug, it may impede on the engine cover fitting properly.

Malcolm (I think) posted a diagram of a CD220 with a dipstick, but it appeared to be located at the front of the engine, not the rear. Anyone done this or have access to any cars in the workshop to find a solution?

Russ

 

[42864]

I think that you will find that you are looking at the Gearbox Dip Stick Tube

 

[television]

As Dave above.

There are the instructions for fitting one, but the exhaust manifold must be removed to do it, and that is no easy job

 

[rf065]

I think that you will find that you are looking at the Gearbox Dip Stick Tube

I think you'll find the gearbox one is on the left of the engine with a black plastic plug on it.

Either way, there is no need to remove the exhaust manifold as both plastic plugs are on the end of dipstick tubes, only the dipsticks are missing.

So, it should be a simple job of getting the right dipstick for both engine oil or gearbox, whether the engine cover will fit over the top of them is another matter.

Russ

 

[television]

Interesting post this. Are MB fitting engine oil tubes now,my friends 06 car has one and mine does not.

Having the dip stick is a much quicker way of filling and checking, rather than pressing the silly buttons when it says"please try later"

The exhaust manifold off, is only for a retro fit for the tube.

So you can go and buy a dip stick,,wish that I could

 

[rf065]

So you can go and buy a dip stick,,wish that I could

I wish I could as well, I asked the dealer & all they could say was, "your car does not have a dipstick".

I persisted and they said they would try & find out, but I'm still waiting and past experience has shown they will never get back to you.

So, anyone have a part number that they know will work?

Russ

 

[television]

Yours must be the 646 engine,,and the 646 in the link shows the tube, but no stick

http://www.detali.ru/cat/oem_mb2.as...649716.651&CT=M&cat=63R&SID=01&SGR=050&SGN=04

It needs someone with the EPC

I will join that soon

 

[roofless]

i think if you get a dipstick to suit your car it might only be used to check the level then put the plastic cap back on & store the stick in the boot ect...good pics

 

[television]

Should be easy enough to make one

 

[Cole@MBS]

Just spent last hour on EPC, cant find anything about dip sticks, not doing well finding things today!!

 

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Just spent last hour on EPC, cant find anything about dip sticks, not doing well finding things today!!

Me too on WIS cant find out any info on the manual box thing

 

[lulu]

I ventured down this road myself by trying to cross reference within the Russian site by hopefully finding part numbers for 83 and 8 that were used in a different engine with an appropriate dipstick. But alas, no part number for 83

mind you, this picture on this one looks familiar (OM611).... with 131 giving two MB part numbers.

*800 FROM MODEL YEAR 2000 - CODE 800 thus giving part No. 6110100072

Doing a similar exercise elsewhere I also came across part No. 6110100372


Of course I could well be wide of the mark with what I'm attempting.

 

[television]

I ventured down this road myself by trying to cross reference within the Russian site by hopefully finding part numbers for 83 and 8 that were used in a different engine with an appropriate dipstick. But alas, no part number for 83

mind you, this picture on this one looks familiar (OM611).... with 131 giving two MB part numbers.

*800 FROM MODEL YEAR 2000 - CODE 800 thus giving part No. 6110100072

Doing a similar exercise elsewhere I also came across part No. 6110100372


Of course I could well be wide of the mark with what I'm attempting.

I knew that you had an interest in this cant think why Any way when oil comes out of the top of the engine,and you cannot get anymore in, you know its to short

 

[lulu]

I knew that you had an interest in this cant think why Any way when oil comes out of the top of the engine,and you cannot get anymore in, you know its to short

Careful what you suggest. There might be someone who's used item 143 as the dipstick!!!

 

[rf065]

Careful what you suggest. There might be someone who's used item 143 as the dipstick!!!

Well it has been known for some people to spend all morning pouring oil into the dipstick tube rather than removing the oil filler cap!

Russ

 

[rf065]

(AR27.00-P-0101P)
Not sure how accurate this is, but, according to WIS, which I struggle to use, for transmission 722.6 in models 203, 209.3 & 209.4, the oil level is checked with dipstick part number, 140 589 15 21 00? The dipstick tube appears to part number 140 589 49 63 00 if it is not fitted.

(AR18.00-P-3035-01T)
Regarding oil level, it states in engine 646 with Lanchester in models 203, 209 & 211, the level is checked with dipstick part number 120 589 07 21 00.
The pictures that accompany this info states "shown on engine 647.961 though"?

Anyone got any thoughts?

Russ

 

[rf065]

Just bumping this up over 19 lines of spam

Russ

 

[lulu]

Getting warmer

http://startekinfo.de/etools/content/tool.jsp?toolno=120 589 07 21 00

646 as well!

 

[television]

(AR27.00-P-0101P)
Not sure how accurate this is, but, according to WIS, which I struggle to use, for transmission 722.6 in models 203, 209.3 & 209.4, the oil level is checked with dipstick part number, 140 589 15 21 00? The dipstick tube appears to part number 140 589 49 63 00 if it is not fitted.

(AR18.00-P-3035-01T)
Regarding oil level, it states in engine 646 with Lanchester in models 203, 209 & 211, the level is checked with dipstick part number 120 589 07 21 00.
The pictures that accompany this info states "shown on engine 647.961 though"?

Anyone got any thoughts?

Russ

That dip stick is the longest one that I have ever seen,I have one for the box

 

[rf065]

Can anyone confirm what 646 engine with Lanchester refers too?

My own theory, as an ex Colt Lancer Turbo owner, is that Lanchester (ancient UK car company) invented balance shafts that rotate in opposite directions at twice the crank speed to cancel vibrations.

Great idea, but it took Mitsubishi to modify the bearings & make it work reliably, (the system was fitted to the Lancer Turbo) & Mitsubishi patented the technology & companies like Porsche etc paid Mitsubishi to use it.

I'm assuming this is why the 646 engine has the name Lanchester attached to it? Anyway I digress, dipsticks anyone?


(Edit - Should have checked Wikipedia first)

"The basic concept behind balance shafts has existed since 1904, when it was invented and patented by British engineer Frederick Lanchester. Two balance shafts rotate in opposite directions at twice the engine speed. Equally sized eccentric weights on these shafts are sized and phased so that the inertial reaction to their counter-rotation cancels out in the horizontal plane, but adds in the vertical plane, giving a net force equal to but 180 degrees out of phase with the undesired second-order vibration of the basic engine, thereby cancelling it. The actual implementation of the concept, however, is concrete enough to be patented. The basic problem presented by the concept is adequately supporting and lubricating a part rotating at twice engine speed at the higher RPMs where the second order vibration becomes unacceptable."

"Mitsubishi Motors pioneered the design in the modern era with its "Silent Shaft" Astron engines in 1975, with balance shafts located low on the side of the engine block and driven by chains from the oil pump, and they subsequently licensed the patent to Fiat, Saab and Porsche.[1]"

Russ