Ball Joint e class 2000

[leeey]

Hi

I have some play in the near side ball joint and an interested to find out how difficult a job it is to replace it were I to do it myself.

Are there any published maintenance manuals that will help

 

[cyps]

If You have fmbsh check your front cross member out if is rusty like most MB will replace it FOC to do this they have to do the ball joints anyway thus you pay no labour

Ball Joints are approx 16 sqidish

 

[piestore]

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cyps
your info is wrong i think yo are talking about a 210 cross member, new sub frame could be done under warrenty but ball joints would not be touched

Leeey if your car is a 210 model it is a 2 hour job well within the realms of a good DIY man however if you have the later 211 model forget it, it is a dealer only job

 

[cyps]

Think you will find im not wrong i can send you my receipt they charged me just for the ball joints 27,00 no labour for fitting them

 

[philharve]

Surely, the fitting of ball joints is much the same procedure on any MB model, isn't it? It's not a long job.

I have a W202 with an O/S ball joint that will need replacing sometime. My indie said the are always done in pairs (an MB requirement).

What's this about rusty cross members on W210/211s? Is the W202 similarly affected?

REGARDS Phil

 

[piestore]

210 cross member

HI

cyps I didn't say they didn't do your ball joints, I was saying that they do not have to do the ball joints when replacing the sub frame.

philharve there is an issue with 210 crossmembers rusting . 211's are not affected and niether are 202's as for ball joint for some reason MB seem to be moving away from the bolt on ball joints as per 202,210 and they are now usually pressed on making it difficult for the DIY man, 211's,230's,219's,220 are all press fit and the 163 (ml) is a press out and then pulled back in with a retaining ring these are a real pig and whats worse they are the same at the back

 

[philharve]

... as for ball joint for some reason MB seem to be moving away from the bolt on ball joints as per 202,210 and they are now usually pressed on making it difficult for the DIY man, 211's,230's,219's,220 are all press fit and the 163 (ml) is a press out and then pulled back in with a retaining ring these are a real pig and whats worse they are the same at the back

Hi piestore

Does this mean that special equipment will be required and this will likely force owners to take ball joint replacement to the dealer/indie?

REGARDS Phil

 

[cyps]

Hi Pie Thats what I was saying was you can get the ball joints swopped over if getting the crossmember done it makes sense too for the little extra price

 

[Ian Brown]

The ball joints are not part of the sub frame they are attached to the lower arms which get attached to the sub frame so as piestore says no need to touch the ball joints

 

[OlafMaxwell]

Whatever you do, replace both ball joints at the same time. mine were done at about 95k I think. Was not difficult but for some reason I was not charged for the parts! Got the drop links done at the same time. Felt like a new car afterwards.

 

[230K]

HI

MB seem to be moving away from the bolt on ball joints as per 202,210 and they are now usually pressed on making it difficult for the DIY man, 211's,230's,219's,220 are all press fit and the 163 (ml) is a press out and then pulled back in with a retaining ring these are a real pig and whats worse they are the same at the back

Why was i told the outer wishbone bottom ball joints are the same on the 202,210 & 211 by the MB dealer infact the ball joints that i got last Thursday night for a 202 had a 211 part number and they were fitted in less that 2 hours for both sides without even removing the wheels.

230K

 

[piestore]

211 210 ball joint

HI

I have no idea, but I do know that a 202 or 210 ball joint will definatley not fit a 211, check your part numbers I cannot think of any possible reason for a 210 ball joint to supercede to a 211 number

 

[BIGSTEVE]

Hi Piestore Is Atop Tech He Does Know What He Is Talking About, And Yes The 210 Front Sub Frames Do Suffer From Rust, But What Do You Expect When Stuck Underneath A Cover And Full Of Water.

 

[big x]

"What's this about rusty cross members on W210/211s? Is the W202 similarly affected?"

REGARDS Phil

W210's can suffer rust just about everywhere including structural points.
These pics have been posted here several times as proof.It's the front beam of part 122
that rusts.
AFAIK only C36 W202 have suffered spring perch failure and that would be from
very hard race type use.

adam