Booked in for a re-map...

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Hide your driving licence , that way the police can’t take it off you :rolleyes:

The first hour after the re-map will be interesting and probably terrifying :eek::eek:
 
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Just back from my re-map,
and I have to say WOW, it's like a rocketship, to me anyway, it wasn't exactly a slouch before, but now :eek::eek:
So the figures are....
Mercedes 265bhp 620NM
Before 268bhp 629NM
After 299bhp 714NM
So, 31bhp and 85NM gain,
got to say that'll do me. :D:D
All for £325 Bargain!
20200218_112022.jpg 20200218_110610.jpg 20200218_113705.jpg 20200218_113620.jpg 20200218_113502.jpg 20200218_113535.jpg 20200218_113200.jpg Just going out now for a play! :rolleyes::)
 

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Great gains, in gear it will be a rocketship!!!!!
 
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Well you are right, Wighty, sort of, I enquired about the map to my insurance company, (People's Choice) and to my suprise they won't insure re-maps, so I left it at that.
S'pose I should have checked it 1st, just didn't think it would be a problem.
I will sort it tommorow.
Always declare mods, always have.
 

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Have never declared mine and see no need. Unless they were to have an MB garage scan the system, they would never know - no visible change. Just don't be tempted to display any fancy badges proclaiming the hotshot map.
Only time it would count would be if you suffered mechanical damage and were looking for warranty.....

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The 'need' is that if you're involved in a big accident involving deaths or large payouts (maybe you crash into a rolls royce phantom - and it's your fault) the insurance company will do everything they can to avoid paying out. Of course, everyone thinks they won't be involved in that kind of an accident...

So, you're driving a modified car and as such, your insurance is invalid.

I have a friend whose insurance company wouldn't pay out because they asked where exactly they were going - and she replied 'to work'. The car was only covered for social use, so even though the accident wasn't her fault, they still wouldn't pay out. They are bastards and their job is to do over their own customers wherever possible.

I've also heard conjecture that if you've ever asked for a quote for including a remap, or if your car 'looks' modified, then they will test your car for that.

There are pages and pages of the 'pros and cons' of declaring and not declaring... the choice is of course yours, but to say you 'see no need'... well I mean the law, for a start.
 
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The 'need' is that if you're involved in a big accident involving deaths or large payouts (maybe you crash into a rolls royce phantom - and it's your fault) the insurance company will do everything they can to avoid paying out. Of course, everyone thinks they won't be involved in that kind of an accident...

So, you're driving a modified car and as such, your insurance is invalid.

I have a friend whose insurance company wouldn't pay out because they asked where exactly they were going - and she replied 'to work'. The car was only covered for social use, so even though the accident wasn't her fault, they still wouldn't pay out.

I've also heard conjecture that if you've ever asked for a quote for including a remap, or if your car 'looks' modified, then they will test your car for that.

There are pages and pages of the 'pros and cons' of declaring and not declaring... the choice is of course yours, but to say you 'see no need'... well I mean the law, for a start.

Surely they would have to show that the modification was at least partially responsible for the "accident", whatever the incident was. There are not many vehicles on the road that haven't been modified in some way from standard. Do they all "fail" arbitrarily?

Ian.
 

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Nope, your car is not the car they are insuring - it's modified. Therefore your insurance is not valid as the contract/policy does not cover your modified car. It covers your 'old'/original car.

If you have a minor prang, they're 'probably' not gonna check your car with a scanner etc. If it's big bucks, the likelihood increases.

FWIW I asked for quote for mine and esure said they'd increase my policy by £93 for the rest of the year. They wouldn't cover me if I added spacers.

I'd also argue that the vast majority of cars are not modified - not everyone is on a car forum! Most people get cars and put petrol in, the cheapest tyres possible, and only take it to a mechanic if it breaks down or if it's part of their PCP warranty clause...
 

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Declare it!!

Even fitting something simple like replacement LED headlight bulbs that are not Type Approved, as they cannot be in the UK, will invalidate your insurance and that is all the excuse they need to say you modified it so you are not insured. They return your premiums to when you very first took out the policy with them as they will declare you didn't inform them the car was modified so the whole contract with them is null and void and then you may have to explain to plod why you have been driving un-insured for the last few years, just to add to your problems.

Also heard that if plod are suspicious at a roadside check that you have modded a car in any way they can check with your insurance that you declared it and if you didn't then you have the same issue - 'you are not insured, sir'. If convicted of driving with no insurance you are then required to declare to any new insurance company that you were caught uninsured for the next five years - ouch on the premiums. One driver on another forum said he was caught and his premiums increased by 5 fold because he was considered a high risk driver. It is a bit like playing Russian Roulette with 5 bullets and one empty chamber.

Not worth it - my insurer only charged an extra £60 a year for the re-map on my OM642 - much cheaper than being caught.
 
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Declare it!! Not worth it - my insurer only charged an extra £60 a year for the re-map on my OM642 - much cheaper than being caught.

I would agree with that too, it's just not worth the risk. A mate of mine got caught out with that many years ago with a Blydenstein VX Firenza. Crashed the car and lost everything. Even in those days they found an out and refused settlement. :rolleyes:
 

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You also have photos clearly showing your number plate and stating it's been remapped and a beforehand after Dyno plot with your details ...
Declare it as if your insurers found this thread after an accident you'd be in a world of pain...
 

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Plod will and can data mine the web on user names, registration numbers etc, both are easy to find IF they suspect anything.
It is not standard practice though

However, should you have a no longer supported car, they would have no way of proving it (think Saab......)

We just had a joint anti fraud session with them and conversation strayed (they were a couple of petrol heads :))

Great gains on all these 350CDIs though:cool:
 

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So, you buy a secondhand car and drive it for a few years.

When you decide to sell, you look out the paperwork and a CD from a tuning company falls out of the handbook. The car is obviously re-mapped.

So, you have been driving a modified car for all these years and both you and the insurance company are none the wiser.

Unless you're as systems annalist with a lot of hardware interfaces and seriously specialised knowledge, you would NEVER know if it had been remapped.

Say you were a fashion designer, or flower arranger, or Airline Steward, or TV presenter (etc, you get the picture), why would you ever think to find out? You may not even know what a remap is, so no "deliberate" actions that the Insurance company could accuse you of.

If in a serious accident, would the Bill REALLY start hacking into your ECU software?

I'm speaking from experience, because this happened to me...
 

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So, you buy a secondhand car and drive it for a few years.

When you decide to sell, you look out the paperwork and a CD from a tuning company falls out of the handbook. The car is obviously re-mapped.

So, you have been driving a modified car for all these years and both you and the insurance company are none the wiser.

Unless you're as systems annalist with a lot of hardware interfaces and seriously specialised knowledge, you would NEVER know if it had been remapped.

Say you were a fashion designer, or flower arranger, or Airline Steward, or TV presenter (etc, you get the picture), why would you ever think to find out? You may not even know what a remap is, so no "deliberate" actions that the Insurance company could accuse you of.

If in a serious accident, would the Bill REALLY start hacking into your ECU software?

I'm speaking from experience, because this happened to me...

I had thought about that angle but then maybe in some cases that would be a selling tool ? :rolleyes::)
 

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