C180: engine turns but does not start please help

[benlauren]

Or is it one of these?

 

[benlauren]

or is it this one?

 

[television]

I think it is the last picture, the date of the car is mid 1996, what is the engine in it, is it the111

 

[benlauren]

I think it is the last picture, the date of the car is mid 1996, what is the engine in it, is it the111

Is that the first three digits of engine number? then it is 111

 

[television]

140 in the link shows an engine module the same as your number, so I hope that is right,,there are so many versions its a nightmare.

Can anyone else please confirm it, and that there is only the one on this car

http://www.detali.ru/cat/oem_mb2.as...417717.418&CT=F&cat=44V&SID=54&SGR=080&SGN=06

 

[benlauren]

140 in the link shows an engine module the same as your number, so I hope that is right,,there are so many versions its a nightmare.

Can anyone else please confirm it, and that there is only the one on this car

http://www.detali.ru/cat/oem_mb2.as...417717.418&CT=F&cat=44V&SID=54&SGR=080&SGN=06

Whats #158 in the diagram?

 

[television]

There are so many versions of it all, if there is only the one ECU then the one in your picture will be it, as I understand it, it is all motronic all combined in one box, I can find nothing for cars late 04 to early 97 and that is my problem

 

[benlauren]

There are so many versions of it all, if there is only the one ECU then the one in your picture will be it, as I understand it, it is all motronic all combined in one box, I can find nothing for cars late 09 to early 97 and that is my problem

Mine is reg. April 96

 

[television]

That was a miss print on the date

 

[Carl Hills]

Ben's ecu and some advice for me

Ben glad you are at least eliminating some causes of your problem. I agree with Malcolm. there are many out there now as there are many of these cars being broken so the price will drop.

Sorry to hijack your problem but I posted a querie on my vito 113 that has the same petrol engine. Malcolm, where do I find out if one of these 111 C class ecu's will fit my van. It has the same engine. Can you swap these ecu's. iget the feeling mercedes makes all these black boxes with different numbers but surely if it is a 111 16v 4 cylinder engine, the ecu programme must be the same. the petrol vito is rare in the uk but there are thousands of c class 180's and 200's with 111 engines??? Any guidance before I go buy an ecu that costs more than my van. Who are the trustworthy tester/repairers

Good luck Ben

 

[6carpediem6]

I've got the same problem with my c180 - i've replaced the ecu with a used one - now this won't communicate with my scanner ARGH!

 

[television]

Ben glad you are at least eliminating some causes of your problem. I agree with Malcolm. there are many out there now as there are many of these cars being broken so the price will drop.

Sorry to hijack your problem but I posted a querie on my vito 113 that has the same petrol engine. Malcolm, where do I find out if one of these 111 C class ecu's will fit my van. It has the same engine. Can you swap these ecu's. iget the feeling mercedes makes all these black boxes with different numbers but surely if it is a 111 16v 4 cylinder engine, the ecu programme must be the same. the petrol vito is rare in the uk but there are thousands of c class 180's and 200's with 111 engines??? Any guidance before I go buy an ecu that costs more than my van. Who are the trustworthy tester/repairers

Good luck Ben

Early cars are not subject to being coded to the car, this did not happen till around 1998-9

http://www.autotekelectronics.com/

http://www.the-ecu-doctor.co.uk/

http://www.carelect.demon.co.uk/

http://www.ecu-repairs.co.uk/

http://www.bba-reman.com/uk/index.aspx

With many of these faults you do need to have the pin out of the ecu, that is the only way to know if the ECU is getting power, some immobilizers kill the ECU as from motronic and on. There are 9 versions of the 111 ECU,s, and my info goes by date of the build, that makes it hard when the car is not infront of you

 

[benlauren]

Early cars are not subject to being coded to the car, this did not happen till around 1998-9

http://www.autotekelectronics.com/

http://www.the-ecu-doctor.co.uk/

http://www.carelect.demon.co.uk/

http://www.ecu-repairs.co.uk/

http://www.bba-reman.com/uk/index.aspx

With many of these faults you do need to have the pin out of the ecu, that is the only way to know if the ECU is getting power, some immobilizers kill the ECU as from motronic and on. There are 9 versions of the 111 ECU,s, and my info goes by date of the build, that makes it hard when the car is not infront of you

Malcolm, would an ecu from a 1995 model fit mine?

 

[television]

Malcolm, would an ecu from a 1995 model fit mine?

It should not be a problem

 

[roofless]

or is it this one?

if you have the second ecu in your photo it's under the washer bottle so a quick look will confirm what type is fitted to your car & make things clear

 

[benlauren]

if you have the second ecu in your photo it's under the washer bottle so a quick look will confirm what type is fitted to your car & make things clear

I do have this and I removed it to see if i can find a similar one but the garage told me there is another one and that's the one that may be faulty.

 

[television]

I do have this and I removed it to see if i can find a similar one but the garage told me there is another one and that's the one that may be faulty.

The one in your photo is the ignition module, as can be seen from the plugs, I will not have time to go further on this.

You must find the one that has a number in 158 in the link

http://www.detali.ru/cat/oem_mb2.as...417717.418&CT=F&cat=44V&SID=54&SGR=080&SGN=06