C207 E400 Recurring EML

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Hello all. Hoping to find some pointers/advice for what has become a total headache of a car.
Purchased a 2015 C207 E400 last March (3.5 version). It had 39k miles. It has been serviced according to schedule, although not all at Merc dealers. I have continued this and in the year have covered 9k miles.

- April 2023 - Broke down, fuel pump failed and had shaken itself loose according to the garage.
- July 2023 - Amber EML appeared but car ran fine, went away after a long run. Over the next few months it would return, usually when crawling in heavy traffic but would clear after a good run
- December 2023 - Amber EMP returns but would not go away. Garage diagnosed faulty pre-Cat NOX sensor which was replaced along with a software update
- 2 days later EML returns. Garage claims to have done more software work.
- 2 days later EML returns. Garage perform another software update, take car run with computer plugged in. No NOX faults but say an oxygen sensor has ‘anomalies’ which would not throw an EML. They take car on test runs and no issues.
- 1 mile after leaving garage - EML returns. Booked back in next week.

It is approaching 1 year with the car and in that time it has been in the garage for 6 weeks (most of that time being after its breakdown). Luckily I purchased a warranty which has so far saved me c.£1,500.

At my wits end. While there is no mechanical fault and the car is drivable it is very very frustrating and I want this properly resolved. Why is it proving so difficult to cure? I would not have expected emission sensor issues on a petrol and am very very disappointed with the Merc. Previously owned two Alfas over 8 years, the last being a Brera Prodrive I sold with 150k miles. It was a stunner, fantastic to drive and never gave any trouble at all. Completely regret selling it. I want to cut my losses and sell this lemon but how can I sell a car that cannot manage 1 mile without throwing an EML?!

Has anyone else with an E400 had issues similar to this? How was it resolved? Alternatively is anyone into BDSM and fancies buying a car that’ll punish them nonstop?
 

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Hello, welcome and sorry to hear your troubles.

Was serviced through a MB dealer / specialist? May be worth posting your approx location up - one of our resident Indies may be your best option.

Just a thought... is the battery the original? And what shape us your alternator in?
 
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It has been serviced at a mix of MB and indies. All according to schedule. I’m in Glasgow and have used Prestige Car Specialsits (Ibrox branch). Unsure if battery is original or not. Stop start is active on most so assumed battery is in good shape. Daily commute is c.20 miles and regular long runs at weekends so should be kept well charged.
 

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Stop/start normally first thing to throw a wobble with a weak battery, so sounds okay.

I'm sure one of our northern gurus will chip in shortly with some guidance for your area.

Or one of our resident Indies!
 

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Isn’t it a separate battery for the stop start my 2014 E400 has an auxiliary battery in the boot
 

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It has been serviced at a mix of MB and indies. All according to schedule. I’m in Glasgow and have used Prestige Car Specialsits (Ibrox branch).
Did any garage mention the EGR valve.
 
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Did any garage mention the EGR valve.
No, this isn’t been mentioned yet. I didn’t realise it would have one, thought this was a diesel specific item? I do wonder if these issues can be traced back to when it broke down with the faulty fuel pump - if at this point a sensor or something has got dirty with smoke, but then it ran for a good few months after that before the EML issues began
 

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Suggest you get decent code reader and read codes urself.
Modern benz can be,electrical, electronic nightmares. Post the codes that show up. Record them then delete and see what shows up after ur next run.
Unless u have deep pockets, I suggest the code reader and some research. Once u post details someone may recognise similar issues and remedy with thier own motor.
 

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Suggest you get decent code reader and read codes urself.
Modern benz can be,electrical, electronic nightmares. Post the codes that show up. Record them then delete and see what shows up after ur next run.
Unless u have deep pockets, I suggest the code reader and some research. Once u post details someone may recognise similar issues and remedy with thier own motor.
Cheap but effective Autel AP200
 

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An update on this - the EML issue was eventually resolved in March by a new oxygen sensor on what attempt I don’t know because I lost count. A few months of trouble free motoring and a new occasional rattle from the engine appeared. Have now sold this POS and will never ever touch a Mercedes ever again. The worst, most unreliable and joyless car I have ever owned. Regret selling my delightful old Alfa. Now in a Lexus.
 

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Thank for updating us on your issues, I fully understand your decision.
i have only ever had one problem car, & I sold that.
 

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Pity, but I know that feeling.

Have had three over the years that I sold just after fixing them for the very last time

And then they probably then went on fault free for many a year......:mad:
 

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