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Hi All.

Just been to have new tyres fitted and been told the nuts cant be torqued to the correct level and I need to take the car back next week.

It appears this is due to spacers that have been fitted on the car and a couple are stuck on also.

This leaves me with a couple of questions.

1. could the spacers be caused the buffeting noises I'm hearing when driving, I cant see how they would but..

2. previous owner obviously fitted these and in my experience spacers normally go with lowering springs, is there an easy way I can tell from the stance if the car has been lowered? It's sitting on 19" black amg stock wheels, if anyone has any and pics of their stock estate I can compare?

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Can’t help with a comparison picture but, from the photos on your welcome post, the car does look to be running low. Can you find anything comparable with decent photos on Autotrader to have a look at?

Again, I know mine's a different model but Air Suspension was standard on mine. Yours is definitely springs?
 
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Can’t help with a comparison picture but, from the photos on your welcome post, the car does look to be running low. Can you find anything comparable with decent photos on Autotrader to have a look at?

Again, I know mine's a different model but Air Suspension was standard on mine. Yours is definitely springs?
thanks, as far as I know c43 are springs, the adaptive suspension is working fine as it gets more stiff in sports plus mode

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Can’t help with a comparison picture but, from the photos on your welcome post, the car does look to be running low. Can you find anything comparable with decent photos on Autotrader to have a look at?

Again, I know mine's a different model but Air Suspension was standard on mine. Yours is definitely springs?
think you right though and good idea as just found this on autotrader and wheel gap certainly looks larger


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If it’s going back under warranty I’d get rid of the spacers can’t imagine they’d go down well with MB

This looks like stock height:
thanks and I'm sure it won't though only warranty issue at present is the external handle light not working, they are smaller wherels though I think or at least different

however of I start asking them to look at the buffeting noise assuming its still there after tyre change and spacers plus lowered springs are found they will prob blame that.

I might have to get then to check however and give me a quote on putting it back to stock and theb speak with garage I bought it from as assumed it was all stock

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Well here you go, 1st pic mine just now and 2nd / 3rd screen shots from autotrader just now
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I hope the droning you mention isn’t the tyres rubbing on the bodywork - spacers and lowered bodywork = problems in my experience
 
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I hope the droning you mention isn’t the tyres rubbing on the bodywork - spacers and lowered bodywork = problems in my experience
let's hope not, I'm assuming it isn't as they aren't that close but who knows what the noise is.

Think I may have to drop a message to the garage I purchased from making them aware of the spacer issue and my feeling now I've looked at the car that it may also have been lowered, then get my local indy or merc to check it over and advise on cost to put back to stock

I do prefer the look if I'm honest but not if it's impacting the ride or causing the noise.

The tyre garage have advised me not to go anywhere or fast until they have attempted to re-torque the bolts Monday after the wheels have settled, not sure the car sitting for 48 hours will make any difference to then being able to tighten the nuts more but they seem to think it will

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All sounds very odd, just what are the tyre fitting people saying…. I’d get those spacers off and get the wheels torqued properly the main concern seems to be that two of the spacers are corroded on.
 
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All sounds very odd, just what are the tyre fitting people saying…. I’d get those spacers off and get the wheels torqued properly the main concern seems to be that two of the spacers are corroded on.
The tyre guys are basically saying they can't get the nuts to the correct torque due to the spacers and want me to being the car back Monday so they can redo the torque on the bolts, new tyres fitted today.

They basically said they want to ensure the bolts are secure after the car has been stood for 24 hours, not sure what difference that makes.

They advised 2 of the spacers were stuck on so couldn't be easily removed and garage was shutting at 1PM.

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They tyre fitters sound quite concerned I’d certainly be talking to the supplying garage and asking them to sort it out. It’s worth remembering that MB keep the best cars for resale the rest go to auction….
 

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Spacers mayyyyyy also be nudging the wheel out in to airflow slightly too, causing the buffeting.
 
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Spacers mayyyyyy also be nudging the wheel out in to airflow slightly too, causing the buffeting.
thats a fair point and didn't think of that, its quite noticeable and you can hear it at low speeds even when not windy so thought it was more bad tyre noise hence the tyre change to get rid of run flats, could be rubbing but doesn't get more frequent as such when going fast so not sure it's that either, could actually be wind noise via a seal somewhere and nothing to do with any of this but disappointing its not stock, they garage is a very reputable high end performance specialist who sold the car, it was a part-ex for a 6 month old RS6 they had so suspect they didn't know either, will see what they say.

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Who knows what owners get up to nowadays this makes interesting reading:

 
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Who knows what owners get up to nowadays this makes interesting reading:

don't have air suspension but that does sound good.

It's difficult for me now, the garage I purchased the car from have replied saying they weren't aware but will help with whatever I need so that's a good start.

hard bit now is I prefer the look of the spacers and lower stance but if thats causing the noise I obviously don't want that, will take it for a drive on on new tyres with or without spacers Monday after garage have had a proper look and make the decision from there I guess on if I need to look at cost to put it back to stock, assuming my indy confirms it has been lowered which looking at pics I'm quite sure it has now

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could actually be wind noise via a seal somewhere and nothing to do with any of this
Surprised it's not been mentioned before, but a lot of W205 owners complained of wind noise and Mercedes were fitting what they called "acoustic glass" under warranty to fix the problem.
 
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Surprised it's not been mentioned before, but a lot of W205 owners complained of wind noise and Mercedes were fitting what they called "acoustic glass" under warranty to fix the problem.
thanks, I have read that on some other posts. It sounds odd but I can't decide what the noise is, can't hear any traditional wind noise I.e whistling type noise just the buffeting type sound hence thinking it was more tyres, can hear it even at lower speeds

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It's not a loose undertray, is it? Especially if it has been lowered, it may have snagged a speed bump or two and loosened front or rear edge...
 


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