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Hi all,

Firstly id like to say hello to every1, im new on this forum.

I recently bought a 1997 E220 and it also has the many rust problems associated with these models

Now i have taken it to my local dealer and they asked for a chasis number, so i gave them the one printed on the hpi check (still havnt recieved v5 on my name yet). However, they cant find the car on that chasis number

Can anyone inform me where the chasis number can be found on the car? (i have looked under bonnet

I also have the engine number which is on the hpi check, can i pass that on to the MB dealer, and should they be able to locate it then?

Dont know if this is a problem but the car was manufactured in 97 but registered in 99 (miles are in km but it is UK spec and registered from 99)

Any help would be most apprecited:)
 

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The chassis number on a car of that age should be on a plate that's visible through the base of the windscreen on the passenger side. It should also be on the slam panel in the engine compartment

If the car was with the dealer they should be able to locate the VIN. If they can't locate the VIN you gave them from the HPI check then maybe it's a non-UK car. Try this link and see if it works for you:

http://www.mbclub.ru/mb/vin/?lng=eng


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Being a 97 car it means it came to the UK second hand or has had a previous owner. I cant think of anywhere that drive LHD and that use KM/h other than Japan, and suspect its had a new or secndhand speedometer

How do you know its a UK spec!
Should be a number bottom of windscreen and one inner wing front.
The engine number is meaningless for ID

When you get the reg certificate back you can do a search

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Ridah,

The VIN plate should be on the slam panel under the bonnet as Nick says. If its not there see if there are two small pop rivet holes about 60mm apart. It ought not to have been taken off without replacing it - is it an accident damaged vehicle?
I'm surprised that the main dealer can't locate the vehicle as he should have access to the world wide VIN numbers. Did the HPI make a mistake? I'd go back to whoever did the HPI and run a check on the chassis number only to verify the car details. Alternatively, ask the main dealer to locate the stamped number on the chassis for you.

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is the car left or right hand drive,,if its right it could be south african or austrailian.
 

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Do you have any mot,s for the car or is the service handbook from the previous owner in the car because these two things will have the chassis No on them
 
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Thanks for all ur info guys, a great help.

Answer to all questions.

Car on Hpi says exactly the same vin plate number and chasis number as the mb club link Boldie gave me (states plant 50 and dealers: India 825)

The hpi check, also proves that it is not damaged and TBH i checked it throughly b4 purchase and all panels looked fine to me. The only alert on HPI is number plate change, as it was a private first.

It is uk car coz hpi says its not exported or dvla import maker?

It is right hand drive and everything else appears to be except for wipers and indicators are on one stalk on the right side and the odometer for miles are in km, but speedo is in mph.

I have two previous mots and other reciepts and the chasis number is exactly the same as the one i have on hpi etc. Although i have yet to look at the car for verification of the vin etc.

If mb link found the chasis how can the dealer not find it it seems strange?
 

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Ridah said:
If mb link found the chasis how can the dealer not find it it seems strange?

I do not have a lot of time for MB Stealers so I suppose it does not seem strange to me. If you wish send me a PM with the VIN no. and I will check on my manual data base to see if it registers.
Query? Where did the MOT testers get the No. from? Are they close enough to take the vehicle around to and ask them to show you?

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no, the mot testers are to far away to check unfortuanatly.

Thanks for your help, ive had a bit of a moan to MB to hopefully they will get it sorted now!

Wish me luck.
 

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Presumably the odometer is electric and you can change the display from km to miles.

It's not clear from your post - does the VIN number in the windscreen tie up with the VIN number on your HPi report?
 
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My local dealer has respnded to me by saying the claim is likely to be rejected under warranty repair for the rust problems on the car, as according to their records it was manufactured in south africa!

Problem is on the mbclub vin check it states that the car was made in india dealership 825!

Furthermore, as i prob expalined the car was manufactured in 97 but registered in 99.

What do people suggest re the rust claim, have i got a leg o stand on, or shall i give up trying?

Any advice appreciated.
 
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996jimbo said:
Presumably the odometer is electric and you can change the display from km to miles.

It's not clear from your post - does the VIN number in the windscreen tie up with the VIN number on your HPi report?

No sir odometer is not electric.

Re vin, i cannot see one on the windscreen, so cannot tie it up.

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Ridah said:
Thanks Clive pm sent!

Ridah,

I've not received any PM but it looks as though at least your getting to the bottom of the identification. As the car is probably a personal import, you could trace the history in this country with DVLA to locate the importing owner to give you as much info as possible on the history of the vehicle.

Does anyone know whether the rust recalls were specifically to models produced in Europe? If not then the warranty should be worldwide to all counties that MB operate in. e.g. Britain If that is the case then Ridah should have a ligitimate claim on MBUK.

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I have always found that DVLA will not give out much information as to who imported the vehicle, you really need a friend in the police force. they have access to this info.

Re manufactures warranties and and guarantees, this was a more vague subject back in 1997 than it is today. Many manufactures even today will not honour goods bought in another country. firms like Cannon and Sony advertise the fact that they do, Most manufacrures that I have done work for would honour the guarantee when the person had moved country, but not on goods purchased abroad. the other two points are that one must read the original contract/warranty as MB could say that the paint finnish was OK for Africa and not europe, also it could be said that Ridah bought the car knowing that it had rust problems and chanced getting a cheap car out of it. We are not talking about a break down, the car is 8 years old will soon be 9.

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thanks for responses guys.

However, i did not actually now the car had all the rust until i bought it home and was washing it.

i only really noticed the rust ner front headlight and it appered to be the cause of a stonchip and then water occuring on it IMO.

If MB in milton keynes respond with a no, have i got any grounds to make an complain/appeal? and to who would i do this to?
 

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Ridah said:
thanks for responses guys.

However, i did not actually now the car had all the rust until i bought it home and was washing it.

i only really noticed the rust ner front headlight and it appered to be the cause of a stonchip and then water occuring on it IMO.

If MB in milton keynes respond with a no, have i got any grounds to make an complain/appeal? and to who would i do this to?

Its unfair to blame/claim MB re an unattended stone chip. The previous owner should have attended to it as part of the normal maintenance. Its no better than ignoring to change the oil and then claiming when the engine blows.

I'd bite the bullet and get the stonechips and rust independantly sorted.

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hmm, ok how much is this likely to cost of all prob a hell of a lot?

i mean the rust near front headlight im not bothered about i shall do myself but the rust on arches is inside to and around indicators, so i feel this is unfair, as mb did guantee the bodywork for 8 years.
 

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What do you do about guarantees when say for example the owner parked it all day on Southend Pier.
A man down the road had a moan today, His cat had piddled into his sky box and Pace would not fix it under guarantee.
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