CL500 - worth the risk?

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Need to just remove the vin etc and not near my computer to edit the image...
 

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Here you go.

So the actual factual "value" based on CAP HPi (the industry leader) - interestingly Autotrader doesn't work for valuing a car this old which I didn't realise (we tend to deal in stuff up to 10yrs old or so).

Interesting my "guess" was within a hundred pounds or so - maybe I do know a tiny bit after all!!!

And before you say it's worth more because of the miles - this was based on the actual 55k miles - at average miles (150,000) it valued it at £1000 trade and £3500 retail.

The value was derived by putting in another reg (as I can't see this car's reg), but it was the same age (2005 /55 plate) i put in 55,000m as that's the miles in the advert, and spec (CL500 v8) - and I manually added in the options the car says it has.

The OP mentioned the wheels add £1000 to the value - I checked with both the standard wheels and the 19's and it made £50 difference....


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Here’s a new shape for the same money (pretty much) and ok, a few more miles, but good value at under £8k
 

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This has just been listed.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MERCEDES...-/203252746278?_trksid=p2349624.m46890.l49292

Not perfect, a few marks, and looks like some trim needs doing, however sensible miles, right colour combo (looks great in black) and nice wheels etc (can’t believe they are 17’s tho - look larger)

That looks a decent car at a decent price too.
Nice and with best wheels, simple. Downside I won't have a manual. And I looked at the b add which I said I would not do again.
 

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Fair enough although by all regards more reliable
 

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Nice and with best wheels, simple. Downside I won't have a manual. And I looked at the b add which I said I would not do again.

You can't get CL manual - its an auto.

Whats b add ?
 

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You can't get CL manual - its an auto.

Whats b add ?
Bloxxy add .had said I would not look at any more,to avoid thinking i want another complicated headache. Nice car unfortunatly.easy to end up spending purchase price on repairs.and for that reason a non starter.
 

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Yeh I know, only reason I haven’t bought it / one / any......!
 

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To be fair a number have no issues at all. As a second car OK but at prime motor to big a risk for me now as the damn things are full of non repairable stuff. Or later models that and forced visits for coding of near anything and updates. No thanks.
 

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Has the OP bought one yet ??


I think hrs waiting for Alex to go look at it.

Hopefully Alex says its a good one and he offers the guy £6500 and then it will be a really good car at a not so bad price
 

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I’m late coming to this post but here are my observations based on over half a century of motoring, owning an eclectic mix modern and classic cars and contributing to many forums.

There are those who post on a forum seeking advice and guidance on an intended purchase when in reality they are only seeking confirmation of their own opinion and become dismissive of opposing views by those ‘in the know’. I’ve seen it so many times, sad but true.

Having made an enquiry at a dealer and then personally instructing a specialist mechanic to inspect a car can carry a risk. See section 9 (4) (b) of the Consumer Rights Act 2015, viz:
“The term mentioned in subsection (1) does not cover anything which makes the quality of the goods unsatisfactory—(b)where the consumer examines the goods before the contract is made, which that examination ought to reveal”.
In any claim on the dealer under the act a consumer could argue that he made only a cursory glance at the car and has no knowledge of mechanics which would normally be accepted. However the dealer would have a strong defence if the purchaser had instructed a specialist mechanic to examine the car as he should have discovered any fault which was the subject of the claim. It would then be incumbent on the consumer to demonstrate that such an inspection could not reveal every –possibly hidden- defect. Nevertheless it does give the dealer an arguable case.
The solution is simple; have a friend instruct the specialist mechanic and report back to them. If the buyer proceeds with the purchase and subsequently makes a claim on the dealer there is no evidence of him having the car professionally inspected.

Returning to the OP’s original question here are two cars worth consideration, the former being closer to his location:
https://www.prestigecarsltd.com/veh...m-surrey-dfe54b9f-1f4b-4206-a013-4f8ccdd7e11c
https://classicclassics.co.uk/road-car/mercedes-cl500/

Also a mobile MB specialist in that area:
https://www.mercanix.co.uk/used-car-inspections/

Having said that I'm sure Alex will carry out a full and reliable inspection.
 

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(snip) Having made an enquiry at a dealer and then personally instructing a specialist mechanic to inspect a car can carry a risk.

That is interesting. Presumably the client would then have a case against the professional inspector who failed to spot an issue. Like a surveyor who misses dry rot in a house inspection. They are insured against just such a claim.
 

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That is interesting. Presumably the client would then have a case against the professional inspector who failed to spot an issue. Like a surveyor who misses dry rot in a house inspection. They are insured against just such a claim.
Try and claim on that insurance though... “we didn’t inspect that, we weren’t instructed to do that” and a myriad of other reasons there wouldn’t be a pay out
 

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That is interesting. Presumably the client would then have a case against the professional inspector who failed to spot an issue. Like a surveyor who misses dry rot in a house inspection. They are insured against just such a claim.

No chance, their wording will have phrases such as “to their best endeavours” and “clearly visible at the time of inspections and so on - tyres that are fine at 9am can be worn out in a couple of hours on a racetrack, so once the purchaser has taken the car away, he can’t prove what damage he’s done through his use.

Interesting point about the professional inspection tho - never thought of that! However, if someone comes to professionally inspect a car we are selling, we log who it is and so on because sometimes (and I am by no means saying it happens a lot) but sometimes these people “need” to find something to justify their fee.

We once had a customer insist a car he was buying was taken to a local tyre fitters to be “fully inspected” I won’t say who but apparently they can Fit things very kwickly...... anyhoooo apparently the car needed new brake discs and pads all round 4 new tyres and 2 shocks were leaking..... we put it up on the ramp at work with the customer and showed him the brand new discs and pads we had fitted 3 days earlier, (one day before the inspection) the 4 extremely new tyres and the shockers that were strangely leaking used engine oil....

He bought the car without the “work” being done....
 
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