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I'm sure the CLK fitted with OEM pads and discs will be perfectly capable of locking the wheels a causing a skid. Ultimately the stopping power is down to tyre grip. Unless you are looking at track use I would go with what Mercedes originally spec'd for the car.

Oh and you have nothing to be sorry about, some people just can't accept other's opinions/experiences differ from their own...
 
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So thats not a resounding yes or no to EBC discs and/or pads but I have given a few members cause to be argumentative and grumpy - sorry for that. I'm quite willing to go with OE but if there is a better alternative, I would prefer to go that way. Presumably, there are other choices such as Ferodo or Mintex on pads too. I think I will pursue my quest in private henceforth.

I am so sorry for what has gone on, all forums can have these problems from time to time, with some people joining in to wind things up and offer no constructive help at all, or they delight in trying to knock another member.

I can only say do some searching even on the EBC website and read the feedback, there are many happy people world wide with their products.

TMD (OE to your car) are now making brake dust free pads, TMD make Mintex,Pagid,Textar and more.

I do hope that you will join us again and have a better experience
 

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So thats not a resounding yes or no to EBC discs and/or pads but I have given a few members cause to be argumentative and grumpy - sorry for that. I'm quite willing to go with OE but if there is a better alternative, I would prefer to go that way. Presumably, there are other choices such as Ferodo or Mintex on pads too. I think I will pursue my quest in private henceforth.

I hope whatever pads you decide on you don,t end up with the same experience as me, though I have heard little or no feedback about other brands of pads on these cars.
I feel I need to say regarding aftermarket discs, which I hope you read.
I and many others have never been able to find any aftermarket ones, there are plenty that say they do them including EBC and Brembo (Black Diamond), but the sizes of the discs they supply are not correct, for info the dimensions of the C43/CLK55/E55 front discs are 334mm diameter, 32 mm thick, Center diameter 67mm, Height 48mm, and they are left and right handed.
EuroCarParts list them but they are not able to obtain them anymore.
Someone was trying to get a bulk buy together on the other forum, and he found exactly the same unobtainable, hope you have better luck than we did.
 
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Andy, just a question as again there is mixed info. With the 55 brakes did you fit 345mm or 334mm discs?
 

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Hi,
I just fitted standard MB discs supplied by my local dealer and as these were fitted by a garage I never actually measured them unfortunatly, but I would say they were the 334mm. Though I now have very slight brake "shimmy". Looking at the disc surface they look like they have particles of pad material embedded in them, so once definetively diagnosed I will be replacing them, at over £200 a side, and over £100 for the pads, a bill I,m not looking forward to paying
 
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Though I now have very slight brake "shimmy". Looking at the disc surface they look like they have particles of pad material embedded in them,

Do you really think that is possible, to embed ceramic particles in cast iron, that would require that the disc have been glowing red for some time.

I can never see that as being possible, but if it was then the disc surface would clean up as the disc just wore down a few microns.

I would think that your disc have just crazed like the ones on my 230, you cannot embed anything into a perfect surface, only a crazed one
 
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Andy, are you discs different to mine on the CLS? As my discs are only £64 each, from MB!
Mind you the pads are £200 for the axle set ... :(
 

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Do you really think that is possible, to embed ceramic particles in cast iron, that would require that the disc have been glowing red for some time.

I can never see that as being possible, but if it was then the disc surface would clean up as the disc just wore down a few microns.

I would think that your disc have just crazed like the ones on my 230, you cannot embed anything into a perfect surface, only a crazed one

I did say "looked like", I,m not sure what it is only that the surface of the disc is looking worn and sorry for itself.
As it has developed a slight "shimmy" over the last six months, and the fact the surface is the way it is I have this morning booked it in to have the discs skimmed, they do it on the car and promise the discs will be as new, though if they are ever removed/replaced from the car, the discs will need to be replaced to the same orientation on the hub, which is,nt to much of a problem because of the disc locating screw.
Peter when i subscribed to the EPC I did a parts search, to find if they were fitted to other MBs with no joy, the original pt. no. for the disc was a HWA number and as some of you know that was indictitive of a pre merger AMG Pt. no. so this might have something to do with the fact that aftermarket discs are not available, and at £240ish each disc retail from MB (were also on back order from Germany last time I enquired) for a ten year old car (at the youngest) you can understand why I and others are looking for a cheaper alternative.
 

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The locating screw keeping the disc in place plays no part in the balance or accuracy of the disc, it is only there to stop the disc from rotating when changing a wheel, the disc is clamped in via the wheel bolts. its a pig when fitting a wheel if the disc turns and the hub turns as well:D
 

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I,m fully aware of the purpose of the disc locating screw, but once the discs have been machined in situ they will then run true with the hub of the car instead of the hub of the disc, so the relationship between the hub and the disc would have to be maintained if the disc was to be removed/refitted on the hub.
Though the hub should run true anyway as should the disc (if not warped) but if any imperfection in the hub and the disc will be machined out in, in my case the slight warp will be machined out with the disc still fixed to the hub, the hub therefore becomes its datum, this hub to disc relationship would need to be maintained or you could risk introducing disc run out.
I was merely stating because of this locating screw I should,nt have any issues maintaining the hub/disc relationship, as with the locating screw being used the disc can only fit in one position on the hub.
 
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I guess that discs for AMG spec cars may be difficult to acquire, but I've been happy with my Pagid discs and MB pads (although they are pretty dirty in use).

I do follow a laborious bedding in procedure to put the discs through a number of heat and cool cycles. I also never rest the car on the foot brake when I come to a stop, especially from speed, just to give the discs time to cool down and prevent warping.
 
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Been out today for the first longish run and the brakes are actually pretty good - lacking initial bite the only issue - and I will probably stick with standard MB parts so are these Pagid brand or some fancy box with MB stamped on it? Need to sort this out now as the brake warning has come up - as I know was iminent.
 

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Does it matter? Just get them from MB and be assured they are the correct spec for your car.
My dealer was pretty good on price
 


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