Diesel Fuel Additives/Cleaners

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Quick update for anyone who's pondering it.

Bought some decent semisynth jaso fc last night and put 250ml in the tank as I filled up. Didn't hear much difference then as the car was warm but this morning there was a marked reduction in the metallic sound on startup.
 

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Good morning,

We use the BP ultimate 90% of the time and car runs nice and smooth and economy appears up a little? Nothing to write home about on the economy front but engine sound is a little quieter and smoother running!

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Also I have downloaded the official manufacturer and standards authority documentation and I can see no difference between FC and FD apart from FD has increased detergent. So apart from cost there would be no reason not to use FD.
 
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My ML holds 95ltr's of diesel, so how much 2 stroke oil do I need to put in when I next fill up?
 

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I use 200ml in a 68 litre tank.

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Shell V Power works out less than £6 more per full tank plus with their points system, you get most of it back in vouchers
 
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Shell V Power works out less than £6 more per full tank plus with their points system, you get most of it back in vouchers



Not at these prices it doesn't! It's £16 more and I can do a lot of miles on £16 of disease!

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Looks as though you are using a rip off fuel station as in Dover ,as you know, Shell Nitro is around 8 to 10p more per litre than the basic diesel which should be around 111p / 113p ?

Yours is more Mway prices?
 

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Nope that's on a road in Lancashire just outside a town centre. I wouldn't mind but there is a Sainsbury and BP station across the road who are significantly cheaper!
 

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My ML holds 95ltr's of diesel, so how much 2 stroke oil do I need to put in when I next fill up?

If you do approx 30mpg that will be 20ml per gallon of diesel.
 

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Nope that's on a road in Lancashire just outside a town centre. I wouldn't mind but there is a Sainsbury and BP station across the road who are significantly cheaper!

Whatever you say ...something is amiss?
 

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Not at these prices it doesn't! It's £16 more and I can do a lot of miles on £16 of disease!

Mine is 8-9p more per litre. Someone is ripping of the public badly there
 
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Whatever you say ...something is amiss?


Well I'm not lying!! This is the location

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Sainsbury and BP just up the road.

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This proves my point about the price. It's gone up slightly too!

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Mine is 8-9p more per litre. Someone is ripping of the public badly there

Yup. The owner of the forecourt.
 
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Not at these prices it doesn't! It's £16 more and I can do a lot of miles on £16 of disease!

The worst thing is the additives they put in to replace the fuel are staggeringly cheap so they actually make much, much more
 

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Nope that's on a road in Lancashire just outside a town centre. I wouldn't mind but there is a Sainsbury and BP station across the road who are significantly cheaper!

At my local shell station, nitro is about 16 pence per litre more as well. It may be that as its near a Tesco station, the base fuel is kept close to the Tesco price, which it is, and at other stations the base fuel price is higher making the differential to nitro etc less.
 

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Shell Nitro was 9p/litre when i filled up on Thanet Way near Whitstable this afternoon; 118.9 vs 109.9 per litre.
Maybe my imagination but I think the engine is running more quietly and getting extra mpg since I have been using it - on the advice from this forum. Extra mpg may just be covering extra cost.
 

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a drop of "stanadyne" to shell nitro always does the trick, car just whistled through the MOT, and its done over 200K
 

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You have the wrong information!

It has to comply with JASO FC or ISO...L-E GC...or EGD which semi-synth complies with.

Semi-synth oil contains certain percentage of mineral and synthetic oil.

Best not use Fully Synth because it does not mix as well with the diesel to form the required emulsion?....and it is too expensive.


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2-stroke oil and diesel
To all interested:
due to the pollution control measures of the EC diesel-oil is nearly sulphur free and contains up to 5% of bio-diesel. Sulphur has the property to grease the high pressure injection pump and the injectors. Without sulphur, the reduced greasing property of the new diesel has already shown negativ impacts on the long-term stability of the injectors and the high pressure pump. The pump manufacturers have tried to react by lining the moving parts of the pumps with teflon or other suitable material. However, the long term stability is still not achieved as with the old (sulphor contained) diesel.
The engine-research centre of a well known German car manufacurer has conducted some long term tests of diesel additives to find out whether any one of them will have an impact on the long term reliability of the diesel engine components. This introduction to explain were my information comes from.
The results of this research: any diesel additive of any manufacturer presently on the market is not worth the money!
BUT: 2-stroke oil, which we use in our motor saws, lawn mower or in 2-stroke motor engines has shown to have an extreme positive impact on diesel engines, if such 2-stroke oil is added to the diesel in a homoeophatic dosis of 1:200. In practical terms: 0,300 litre of 2-stroke oil into the 70l diesel tank. The 2-stroke oil will be absorbed by the diesel (emulsion) and grease every moving part of the high pressure pump and the injectors.
Besides this, the 2-stroke oil will keep the diesel engine clean, as it burnes cleaner as the diesel itself.
In other words, the 2-stroke oil has a much lower ash-content as diesel, when burned. This proven fact delays the DPF (diesel particulate (soot) filter) to clog, and the "burn free" process of the DPF will be much less.
One more information: in Germany we have to present our cars every 2 years to the TUV -Technical Supervision Organisation - who will check, amongs others, the pollution of petrol and diesel engines.
The measured cloud-factor of a diesel engine without use of 2-stroke oil has been 0,95.
The same factor with the use of 2-stroke oil has been 0,47 - reduction of nearly half of the soot particles.
Besides this, the use of 2-stroke oil in the diesel will increase the mileage by 3-5%.
Thanks for this, very interesting.
 


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