E320 Torque Convertor

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I have just put my E320 estate into the garage because it developed a small shudder around 1500 rev's and got worse with more people in the car.

The MB garage has been great and have always been. But the problem appears to be with the Torque Convertor and needs replacing, they contacted the warranty company (not mercedes) and they have refused to change it they say it is wear and tear. Now the car has only done 106k which for MB is nothing. Other cars i have had have done more than this and had nothing wrong with the gearbox mechanics. Does the Warrany company have a point it is W&T as the MB garage belief it is not and should be covered by the warranty.

Any views would be welcome!
 

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This is not a wear and tear item at all, it has been caused by the rad leaking glycol into the box, and the rad must be changed at the same time.

MB charge £75 for the glycol test that would prove the point,, and I can send you a document on this, to back you up.

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i have a warrenty that will only pay for a broken part,my radiator leaked coolant into transmission causing vibration from torque converter,i changed the rad and transmission oil and filter.they only paid out on the rad after it was tested and found to be at fault.
 

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Hi Russell

Sorry to hear of your trouble.

This fault is common as television says get a glycol test done. Pointless changing the TC if the rad is knackered it will just wreck the new TC.

Your warranty company are pulling a fast one and if I were you I would get onto them and go up the management chain there.

A TC cannot suffer wear and tear, it either works or it doesnt. This is a classic line of them trying to get out of paying and a reason why I never advocate a warranty other than the manufacturers tier 1 or 2 warranty.

If i were you I would be checking the small print of the policy to see what is not covered and what clause they are using for not paying out.
 

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I have just put my E320 estate into the garage because it developed a small shudder around 1500 rev's and got worse with more people in the car.

The MB garage has been great and have always been. But the problem appears to be with the Torque Convertor and needs replacing, they contacted the warranty company (not mercedes) and they have refused to change it they say it is wear and tear. Now the car has only done 106k which for MB is nothing. Other cars i have had have done more than this and had nothing wrong with the gearbox mechanics. Does the Warrany company have a point it is W&T as the MB garage belief it is not and should be covered by the warranty.

Any views would be welcome!

Hi,
What year is your 320 Mark, as this only effected the 211's I believe for a specific time period, though the symptons you describe are the similar.
 

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Hi,
What year is your 320 Mark, as this only effected the 211's I believe for a specific time period, though the symptons you describe are the similar.

Not so, seen it on a couple of 210's and 203's.
 

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Well we live an learn i thought the 210 was to early to be effected by the "Valeo" issue

The others Andy are not called a valeo issue, these are just cases where the rad has sprung a leak, and not due to a faulty manufacturing of the rads. We have had a few 220 cars as well
 

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Hi can someone tell me what raditor is faulty is it the main large rad or the smaller one in front of the main rad, w209 2002 thanks


The 209 is listed for cars with the 112,113,271 and 612 engines up to 30-09-03
 

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This is not a wear and tear item at all, it has been caused by the rad leaking glycol into the box, and the rad must be changed at the same time.

MB charge £75 for the glycol test that would prove the point,, and I can send you a document on this, to back you up.

Welcome to the forum


Television, would you be able to email a copy of the document. Thanks
 

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I have sent it to you :D
 

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Hi Guys
I to have a gearbox shudder at around 1500 revs E 320 cdi 2003 w211 and noticed television had some info on this?
I wonder if I too could get a copy of this?
Sorry first post and just learning
Thanks
 

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The fault sounds like glycol contamination. Have the ATF tested for contamination, either at an MB dealer, Auto-gearbox specialist or an oil testing company.

If it is Glycol then first off replace the ATF, if that doesn't effect a cure it needs a new torque converter and possibly gearbox refurbishment.

In my opinion, there is no going back from contamination without full friction material replacement as the glycol continues to break it down.
 

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Hi Guys
I to have a gearbox shudder at around 1500 revs E 320 cdi 2003 w211 and noticed television had some info on this?
I wonder if I too could get a copy of this?
Sorry first post and just learning
Thanks

Hello and welcome,,I can Email a copy to you, as everyone has said the converter clutch faces will be destroyed, the gearbox itself is seldom affected, and you will need a new rad
 


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