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Engine won’t start - C220 CDI CLASSIC SE - 208.203, OM646.963 engine.

Discussion in 'Engine, Drivetrain, Fuel and Exhaust' started by NBurns, Jul 2, 2019.

  1. RhodiBill

    RhodiBill Senior Member

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    No, not that I have ever seen purely because the ratchet would be a weak point and more than likely break under the pressure one can exert.
     
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    That was my understanding. I've only used a breaker bar to move a tight bolt, I suppose they weren't designed to crank engines. How much torque does an engine take to crank anyway?
     
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    Ah!!! Now there in lies an interesting question!!



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    But so far the ratcheted bar I have used has been strong enough to crank the engine.
    However an interesting viewpoint.



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    You shouldn't need a long bar if the injectors or glow plugs are removed.
    I can turn over a V8 using a standard 1/2" ratchet from the socket set.
     
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    I thought the idea of the long bar was to see if you could get the engine to crank ie., to check it wasn't seized. As it's now turning over I shouldn't bother with one as mission is accomplished. The thing to do now is to see if you can turn it over on the starter and a well charged battery with the injectors or glow plugs out. I think I read that your starter went pop a while back ? so that's the logical thing to concentrate on next.
     
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    Yep. Absolutely. Starter motor next.



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    Not happy. Ljmdiagnostics do not have stock in the Uk then. That’s why I have to pay an extra £3.31 import taxes on top of £136 for so called free delivery!!!!



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    Give MB Grangemouth a ring , mention the forum for a healthy discount (they deliver )
     
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    You got an internet connection beside your swimming pool?
    Thought you'd be concentrating on your tan and wine sampling.
     
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    Wouldn't this have done it?
     
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    Done what?!!



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    Is that a forum member?



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    It's a link to a new starter motor - to replace the one that isn't working

    It's a Mercedes Benz Dealership that gives discount to forum members
     
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    Wow, this thread is turning into a Novel - a confusing one at that! :shock:
     
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    What and cancel my order from LJM?



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    I'm confused!
     
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    The one in the link from Davidsl500 was £69.99 and in stock - it's your money spend it as you choose - forum just trying to help you
     
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    No. I was on about the icarsoft diagnostics scanner from LJM. As far as the starter motor is concerned I would get a refurbished one from Ebay for £40. The scanner was originally £136 from LJM Car diagnostics. Order placed on Monday or Tuesday this week. For some reason now arriving from Hong kong via Dhl.



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