Flat battery NO entry into c180

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Hello All,
more problems!!!!!

My son has a R reg c180 saloon. The car was put in the garage and locked using the electronic key as normal. My mistake was locking it. After going to open and start it after leaving it for about 2 months the battery must be flat on the car. The electronic key is fine I am sure.

The problem is YES we do have the metal key in the electronic one but I can not open the door or boot still! with it. After looking at some previous forums I noted that WD 40 might sort it but no luck. With extreme care I worked the lock back and forth in the correct direction, my only progress being to have the key turn in the end 180% degrees with an odd click but the door lock button did not lift and neither did the door open. I turned the key back to the original position.

Now the question please is leaving the key out of it for now which will complicate it further----- I saw something about jacking up the car and connecting a feed Charger, or Jump lead to the Starter direct.

In other words .Is there any way to charge the battery in my particular situation with no access to boot, bonnet or doors so we can use the normal electronic key to gain access please anyone.

Thanks Nigel
 

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EErrr, no! you need someone to effect enter the car, once done you can lift the bonnet, powering up the starter is the saftest way, there are other ways but you getting into the car is the first thing, have you got any cover, ie mobilo, rac, aa??
 
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Hi Cole

what do you mean by powering the starter?? please. If in the car I can just charge and start it I assume!as normal. I am not in any breakdown services, any idea for entry into it with no damage?? Nig
 

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yes but you need power to open the boot dont you??? if you could have opened boot you would be posting this!
 
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Fair enough Cole ,

we have two mercs and are screwed with immobilisers, alarms and security and lock issues. They are doing my head in to use a modern expression nig
 
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Never tried this on a 'Merc - but here goes.

Can you straighten out a metal coathanger, jimmy it between the door & seal and try to hook the bonnet catch, or even one of the door latches? I believe it may be possible to charge the battery or otherwise assist in this problem once the bonnet is open.
I seem to remember a similar post recently, no doubt several fine forum members might be able to offer some advice.

Gaining entry to the boot and access to the battery, however may prove more difficult.

Managed this on a Manta once but they have frameless doors.

If you can't get in - you may have to bite the bullet and pick the cheapest window to break.


Good Luck, DoverSole.
 

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Have you tried opening the boot?

You have to turn it anti-clockwise from 12 noon to 11 o'clock and push to open the boot. Mine is 97 and yours is not very far ahead technology wise.;)
 

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To get to the starter motor thick cable,,take off the nearside front wheel arch line and you will see the starter
 
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Have you tried opening the boot?

You have to turn it anti-clockwise from 12 noon to 11 o'clock and push to open the boot. Mine is 97 and yours is not very far ahead technology wise.;)

I'm sure he will have tried that, Dragon.

I reckon he's better off trying to gain access to the interior somehow.
A few marks round the door pillar would be cheaper to sort out than a busted window in any event.
Merc security is good, until it bites you back in this way.

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I'm sure he will have tried that, Dragon.

I reckon he's better off trying to gain access to the interior somehow.
A few marks round the door pillar would be cheaper to sort out than a busted window in any event.
Merc security is good, until it bites you back in this way.

DoverSole

No electric is required to open the boot, unless the push button barrel is knackled.
 

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i can get into a 202 in less than 30 sec!! with no damage!!!!
 
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doversole

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No electric is required to open the boot, unless the push button barrel is knackled.

Doesn't the vacuum pump need to operate?

Or is there a purely mechanical linkage in there? Could be he just needs to persevere in this area.
Never been locked out of my '202 yet, so it will be interesting to follow the progress here.

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This is the case with my 230,,I can open the boot with just the key,,pump need not be working
 

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i can get into a 202 in less than 30 sec!! with no damage!!!!

I can do it in 2 secs with a mechanical key.:p

Can someone get locked out in a 211 even though the mechanical key is in good condition with a flat battery and does it rely on a good system battery?

I thought I read it somewhere as the 211 got two batteries, it will never run flat.
 
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i can get into a 202 in less than 30 sec!! with no damage!!!!

Sounds like you need to pm our friend with the details, Cole!
While you're about it, cc: me will you?

I may need it one day!

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The big problem with the rear locks is that no one tries them until its too late, they are very stiff when it comes to turning the key to release the lock.

Once it is open spray it all with Silicon, and fit a dirt cover to the lock
 

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Hi,
Does,nt really help the O/P but for information I believe the pre-facelift boot locks had an electric solenoid for the central locking and the facelifts were air operated.
The Pt. No. for the door lock cover like Malcolm posted is A 210 766 0056 for those who wish to fit one to their boot locks.
Both mine have them fitted.
 

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Hi,
Does,nt really help the O/P but for information I believe the pre-facelift boot locks had an electric solenoid for the central locking and the facelifts were air operated.
The Pt. No. for the door lock cover like Malcolm posted is A 210 766 0056 for those who wish to fit one to their boot locks.
Both mine have them fitted.

what it is? Is it a plastic blade similar to the key blade that is inserted in the key barrel and you need something to pry it out if you need to insert a key?

Can you please show us a pic of the lock cover?

If that is so, it came with my car and don't know where it gone.
 
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