Garage Rebuild

[Blobcat]

All LED I hope and lots and lots of them. You can never get enough light in a garage/workshop

 

[00slk]

All LED I hope and lots and lots of them. You can never get enough light in a garage/workshop

Most definitely Rus

 

[Chrishazle]

My thoughts as well - but could not see enough/any along one side! If you're using one side to park a daily driver, I had a timer switch just inside the door that put some lights on for about 5 minutes, long enough to get in/out of the car then they switched themselves off.

 

[Jim2]

Most definitely Rus

I like the 2 vertical ones..will give you plenty of light for under the bonnet.

 

[Blobcat]

I like the 2 vertical ones..will give you plenty of light for under the bonnet.

Straight in your eyes every time as well...

 

[Jim2]

Straight in your eyes every time as well...

I presume that they're individually switched? I always found that while the building would be generally well lit, once the bonnet was opened, it blocked or reduced the light in the engine bay. Happens in my shed anyway, and I have 2 led lights on a tripod to counteract it. Of course it could be the old age kicking in too

 

[Blobcat]

I presume that they're individually switched? I always found that while the building would be generally well lit, once the bonnet was opened, it blocked or reduced the light in the engine bay. Happens in my shed anyway, and I have 2 led lights on a tripod to counteract it. Of course it could be the old age kicking in too

I like how far the bonnet opens on Mercedes, one of the good bits of design so my overhead lights do a good job of showing where the 10mm socket dropped...

 

[Jim2]

I like how far the bonnet opens on Mercedes, one of the good bits of design so my overhead lights do a good job of showing where the 10mm socket dropped...

Yes, it goes almost vertical, but on the previous A6 and herself and the daughters Superb, you need a bit of extra lighting, especially in the winter.

 

[00slk]

Late last night we turned the garage lights on..........Blimey it was brighter than having direct sunlight beaming in Even the Missus said 'at least you'll be able to see when your working here at night'........Fatal mistake to say to someone when you want them inside the house to spend with them!!
The lights on the wall are at the side of the 2 poster lift when it goes in, so shouldn't pose an in your eyes issue?
Got to go now the electrician is back

 

[Tony Dyson]

All LED I hope and lots and lots of them. You can never get enough light in a garage/workshop

More importantly is that the LED fittings incorporate High Frequency Control Gear to mitigate the stroboscopic effect of standard and fluorescent converted LED fittings, especially if fed from a single phase source. This is also a requirement of BS 7671 and the HSE.
I have to say I'm a little disappointed in the PVC conduit drops and wiring accessories, in such an environment they should be steel drops and metalclad accessories, only the Spanish would usually attempt to get away with this!
Make sure you get a Completion Certificate from your contractor for the installation for your own peace of mind and records. Insurance Co's may even insist on one!

Are you regretting posting this project on the forum yet? .

 

[Jim2]

Late last night we turned the garage lights on..........Blimey it was brighter than having direct sunlight beaming in Even the Missus said 'at least you'll be able to see when your working here at night'........Fatal mistake to say to someone when you want them inside the house to spend with them!!
The lights on the wall are at the side of the 2 poster lift when it goes in, so shouldn't pose an in your eyes issue?
Got to go now the electrician is back

Ah, so it was not for looking in and down.....but in and up..

 

[Tony Dyson]

CIBSE Recommended Lux Levels

The lighting design team at Kellwood LED Lighting will take into account CIBSE recommended lux levels to ensure our client’s lighting is fit for purpose

www.kellwoodlighting.co.uk

Herewith FYIP are some CIBSE recommended lighting levels for different applications, and now would be a good time to consider other services such as;

Emergency Lighting
Burglar Alarms, these today can incorporate Smoke and Rate of Heat rise detection for fire alarms.
CCTV

 

[Blobcat]

CIBSE Recommended Lux Levels

The lighting design team at Kellwood LED Lighting will take into account CIBSE recommended lux levels to ensure our client’s lighting is fit for purpose

www.kellwoodlighting.co.uk

Herewith FYIP are some CIBSE recommended lighting levels for different applications, and now would be a good time to consider other services such as;

Emergency Lighting
Burglar Alarms, these today can incorporate Smoke and Rate of Heat rise detection for fire alarms.
CCTV

One of the first things I do is fit a emergency light over the consumer unit - makes it so much easier when the power goes off to be able to see what's going on.

 

[00slk]

More importantly is that the LED fittings incorporate High Frequency Control Gear to mitigate the stroboscopic effect of standard and fluorescent converted LED fittings, especially if fed from a single phase source. This is also a requirement of BS 7671 and the HSE.
I have to say I'm a little disappointed in the PVC conduit drops and wiring accessories, in such an environment they should be steel drops and metalclad accessories, only the Spanish would usually attempt to get away with this!
Make sure you get a Completion Certificate from your contractor for the installation for your own peace of mind and records. Insurance Co's may even insist on one!

Are you regretting posting this project on the forum yet? .

I have know idea what you mean Tony, I leave all the work to the professionals.......well lets hope they are professionals
The steel conduit is only a requirement for commercial business where customers are involved, seeing it is just my private garage for some of my cars, plastic is good, plus it matches the colour of my walls
All my electrical work has been done by the same electrician for the last 11 years and has issued an electrical completion certificate.
Plus any other work done that requires signing off by the council

Nope, no regrets Tony for posting, I haven't finished posting on this threat yet

And now for a lighting up date...........Good point on the emergency lighting info, I hadn't given that a thought. Now looking into this

 

[00slk]

CIBSE Recommended Lux Levels

The lighting design team at Kellwood LED Lighting will take into account CIBSE recommended lux levels to ensure our client’s lighting is fit for purpose

www.kellwoodlighting.co.uk

Herewith FYIP are some CIBSE recommended lighting levels for different applications, and now would be a good time to consider other services such as;

Emergency Lighting
Burglar Alarms, these today can incorporate Smoke and Rate of Heat rise detection for fire alarms.
CCTV

We have a burglar alarm so one box ticked, however the smoke alarm isn't a starter as it keeps going off when I do any grinding or welding as it did when I fitted an alarm in the garage before, ( I still have this alarm) though I am sure there will be ones on the market that will be more suitable for the workshop/garage?

 

[00slk]

Hopefully these on the side og the garage will cast some light while the car is up in the air?
All on a separate switch. The main ceiling lights can be operated on all 6 or just 3 at a time.

Outside security lights up and running too.
Now looking forward to the doors being installed.

 

[Tony Dyson]

We have a burglar alarm so one box ticked, however the smoke alarm isn't a starter as it keeps going off when I do any grinding or welding as it did when I fitted an alarm in the garage before, ( I still have this alarm) though I am sure there will be ones on the market that will be more suitable for the workshop/garage?

Yes, I mentioned a "Rate of Heat Rise" detector, as you've found out basic smoke and heat detectors can easily be falsely triggered but a ROHR detector settles down to ambient temperatures whether winter/summer, heated room or not, providing any fluctuations are changed over a period of time, the ROHR detector will trigger on sudden or dramatic rates of heat rise.

 

[Tony Dyson]

I have know idea what you mean Tony, I leave all the work to the professionals.......well lets hope they are professionals

Well I'm sure they are, I doubt they would have retained customers for 11 Years without a level of integrity and professionalism.

By way of explanation, standard Fluorescent and LED light sources fed from the same AC Phase source will flash on and off, synchronised by the same supply voltage, at 50 times per second, the human eye will interpret this light as a constant analogous light simply because the human eye cannot differentiate between frame rate changes of 24 frames per second and above so in environments such as a workshop/garage where you have rotating machinery, hand or shop tools, there is a danger that the stroboscopic effect of the ambient lighting will interact with the speed of movement of the reciprocating or rotating tool or workpiece and it will appear to be moving slower, faster or indeed motionless while in normal operation, especially at night without daylight flooding into the room !
To mitigate the stroboscopic effect of the light source is to increase the flash rate from 50Hz to a higher frequency, this is achieved by selecting light fittings equipped with High Frequency ballasts, these fittings will also increase lamp life and efficiency for your monthly consumption bills.

 

[00slk]

Well I'm sure they are, I doubt they would have retained customers for 11 Years without a level of integrity and professionalism.

By way of explanation, standard Fluorescent and LED light sources fed from the same AC Phase source will flash on and off, synchronised by the same supply voltage, at 50 times per second, the human eye will interpret this light as a constant analogous light simply because the human eye cannot differentiate between frame rate changes of 24 frames per second and above so in environments such as a workshop/garage where you have rotating machinery, hand or shop tools, there is a danger that the stroboscopic effect of the ambient lighting will interact with the speed of movement of the reciprocating or rotating tool or workpiece and it will appear to be moving slower, faster or indeed motionless while in normal operation, especially at night without daylight flooding into the room !
To mitigate the stroboscopic effect of the light source is to increase the flash rate from 50Hz to a higher frequency, this is achieved by selecting light fittings equipped with High Frequency ballasts, these fittings will also increase lamp life and efficiency for your monthly consumption bills.

Thank you Tony, I have picked up on what you are saying but only marginally above my understanding.
At least all the lighting is all LED
When the extension to the next garage extension is finished it'll be on it's own consumer unit as this will also supply power to both outside sheds, also LED lighting. I have been given 5 6ft fluorescent lights with standard tubes which I thought I'd us in the extension. Not now, but can I get LED tubes that we fit into the old bases?
We have to get the power board back as we have noticed the Baker lite cover on the main power line into the meter is broken and it has exposed the blue and brown cable, I guess the Brickies mayhave damaged that when laying the block work looks very dangerous. My electrician said he can't touch that.
My electrician phoned today to say he couldn't make it so rebooked for next week. Just some finishing off to do, oh and pay him

 

[Blobcat]

We have to get the power board back as we have noticed the Baker lite cover on the main power line into the meter is broken and it has exposed the blue and brown cable, I guess the Brickies mayhave damaged that when laying the block work looks very dangerous. My electrician said he can't touch that.

He could do... but then you’d probably need to get another electrician...