Help!I have a CL55AMG W215,but the chassis number shows WDB215375

television

Always remembered RIP
Joined
Mar 14, 2005
Messages
164,073
Reaction score
367
Age
89
Location
Daventry
Your Mercedes
2002 SL500, 216 CL500, all fully loaded
I think that we owe our thanks to Alexander for spotting that the engine number was correct for an AMG
 

silver CL55

Senior Member
Joined
Jul 25, 2009
Messages
621
Reaction score
3
Location
Hamilton, Scotland
Your Mercedes
W216 CL500 2008. R230 SL350 2005
Not really as the original order showed some odd things
I have all those things on my SL 500 so you cannot tell be just looking at it
But I bet you don't have an AMG engine, which I noticed none of you could identify for about 9 pages!
 

bigasotonuk

Senior Member
Joined
Nov 14, 2006
Messages
5,331
Reaction score
58
Age
56
Location
Southampton UK
Your Mercedes
C43/55 AMG 1999 / C230K 1997
Hi,
Just spent 1/2 hour reading this post, and spotted that the O/P's engine was a 113 which i believed was only made in 2 capacities 4.3 and 5.5 and was fitted in the AMG C Class, CLK, E Class, and CL, I have now found that this engine was also manufactured as a 5 litre too, and there does still seem to be a discrepency with the engine number fitted and the engine number on the generated data card as Whitenemesis has said in an earlier post. So with this information (if correct) the car could of had its original 5.0 113 V8 engine replaced by a 5.5 113 V8 engine, and had its CC capacity changed on the logbook as these engines would be a straight replacement for each other. Though personnally I believe this is more likely a quirk with this particular model, and its designation within the EPC, it does put me in mind of the C36 AMG and C280 (W202 C Class) as they both had 2 different engine capacities and totally different spec in standard form and yet they were both given the same chassis designation of 202028.
Just a note on the question of the import note on the logbook, a car can come from a foriegn dealership fitted for the UK market and not have any note on the logbook to reflect that it is an import, my C43 was supplied from Gibraltar dealership on its logbook there is no mention whatsoever of it being an import.

check this link out regarding the 113 V8.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercedes-Benz_M113_engine
I do question the BHP figures they are quoting for both the 43 and 55 engine as I think the figures quoted are for the the American versions which are a few BHP less than Euro spec engines due to additional emission control.
 

television

Always remembered RIP
Joined
Mar 14, 2005
Messages
164,073
Reaction score
367
Age
89
Location
Daventry
Your Mercedes
2002 SL500, 216 CL500, all fully loaded
17 pages and the car is as its meant to be!



Lynall

Quite a few things here did not add up
Dealer car sold in Kuwait
LHD Xenons
Sold badgeless
Import not on log book

The VIN number did not match what it was,,,the only thing that said it was what it is was the engine number that Alexander spotted.

A lot learnt from the whole exercise
 

amwebby

Senior Member
Joined
Jan 4, 2007
Messages
228
Reaction score
0
Location
Thorpe Bay
Your Mercedes
W215
LHD Xenons

617 headlamps and fog lamps or additional high beam light, amber, and additional halogen fog lamp (from april 1st, 1970); additional turn signal lamps for italy, and rear turn signal lamps, orange
xenon headlight asymmetric, left driving traffic (с 01.03.1994)

Malcolm, the excerpt you quoted from the Russian VIN finder (requoted above) says left driving traffic, NOT LHD, which is completely the opposite thing.
 

television

Always remembered RIP
Joined
Mar 14, 2005
Messages
164,073
Reaction score
367
Age
89
Location
Daventry
Your Mercedes
2002 SL500, 216 CL500, all fully loaded
Malcolm, the excerpt you quoted from the Russian VIN finder (requoted above) says left driving traffic, NOT LHD, which is completely the opposite thing.

Thank you,,but my car has code 618 marked RH traffic,,life gets hard somtimes
 

amwebby

Senior Member
Joined
Jan 4, 2007
Messages
228
Reaction score
0
Location
Thorpe Bay
Your Mercedes
W215
My car has 617 Left-Hand Traffic (not drive note) and 537 (Great Britain)
 
Last edited:

bigasotonuk

Senior Member
Joined
Nov 14, 2006
Messages
5,331
Reaction score
58
Age
56
Location
Southampton UK
Your Mercedes
C43/55 AMG 1999 / C230K 1997
Both my cars are stated on the Russian site generated datacard as LH traffic (headlights) one was bought in this country, and the other bought in Europe (Gibraltar).
Cars were supplied debadged as a no cost option, nothing suspicious there.
If you refer to my post no.165 if the vehicle is supplied new and registered intially in the UK why would it need a note on its logbook to tell you this, it is only a requirement if the vehicle is registered in another country first, my C43 was supplied by the main dealer in Gibraltar and has absolutely no reference to being an import.
LH Traffic headlights is correct for its destination market (UK) as i previously stated in this post and stated by previous thread posters.
The engine number is still contradicting the datacard, refer to the post made by Whitenemesis and again my post 165.
If a rich Sheikh or oil company wanted a new MB why would they buy it in the UK? when their local MB dealer could supply the same car, to UK spec and deliver it to the UK for them? (and cheaper I dares say though with someone who could afford a CL AMG new price would not been too much of a consideration) Other than the descrepancy with the engine number which I,m sure is just a clerical error or a fioble of this particular chassis model on the EPC, I don,t see much else to be at question regarding this vehicle.
 

amwebby

Senior Member
Joined
Jan 4, 2007
Messages
228
Reaction score
0
Location
Thorpe Bay
Your Mercedes
W215
I know they have driven on the right in Gibraltar since 1929, despite being a British Territory, but is it possible your car was purchased by a British National for use in the UK? Presumably there are tax savings to be had?
 

television

Always remembered RIP
Joined
Mar 14, 2005
Messages
164,073
Reaction score
367
Age
89
Location
Daventry
Your Mercedes
2002 SL500, 216 CL500, all fully loaded
Both my cars are stated on the Russian site generated datacard as LH traffic

My data card says RH traffic on the 217 code



If you refer to my post no.165 if the vehicle is supplied new and registered intially in the UK

It was not,,it was supplied to a dealer in Kuwait

why would it need a note on its logbook to tell you this, it is only a requirement if the vehicle is registered in another country first, my C43 was supplied by the main dealer in Gibraltar and has absolutely no reference to being an import.

I have spoken to MB this morning, the difference is that if MB do the paperwork , then the registration people at DVLA accept this and the log book is not marked an import. If you do a private import the book will be marked

LH Traffic headlights is correct for its destination market (UK) as i previously stated in this post and stated by previous thread posters.

As mine says otherwise we do not know,,as said mine says 217 RH traffic


The engine number is still contradicting the datacard, refer to the post made by Whitenemesis and again my post 165.


No it is not,,this is how the first cars were numbered,,we had the same thing in the 140 range where cars are listed as S class and badged up as CL class






Other than the descrepancy with the engine number which I,m sure is just a clerical error or a fioble of this particular chassis model on the EPC, .

There is no discrepancy with any number, and they are correct


I think that the post has been interesting as it has taught us that there are many ways to read the codes
 

panason1c

Senior Member
Joined
Apr 19, 2004
Messages
1,927
Reaction score
8
Age
70
Location
Somerset, UK
Your Mercedes
Mercedes ML270CDI, VW Polo 1.9tdi, BMW K1200RS
davis810, i feel for you mate....... all the 'experts' here saying......."yes it is"........"no its not"........."its a ringer"........you must have died a thousand times...........

And all the time............you got what you paid for!
 
Last edited:

television

Always remembered RIP
Joined
Mar 14, 2005
Messages
164,073
Reaction score
367
Age
89
Location
Daventry
Your Mercedes
2002 SL500, 216 CL500, all fully loaded
davis810, i feel for you mate....... all the 'experts' here saying......."yes it is"........"no its not"........."its a ringer"........you must have died a thousand times...........

And all the time............you got what you paid for!

Davis810 asked the question in the first place,, look at it this way,,no one here is an expert in these matters,,it has been a good learning curve. It did look bad in the beginning, and yes it took a few post to work it all out, but it has been now.
The last mystery bit is the code218 this would be simple to solve for sure if we had the part and code number from the lights
 

amwebby

Senior Member
Joined
Jan 4, 2007
Messages
228
Reaction score
0
Location
Thorpe Bay
Your Mercedes
W215
Davis810 asked the question in the first place,, look at it this way,,no one here is an expert in these matters,,it has been a good learning curve. It did look bad in the beginning, and yes it took a few post to work it all out, but it has been now.
The last mystery bit is the code 218 this would be simple to solve for sure if we had the part and code number from the lights
The mystery with code 218 would appear to be your car. I checked mine on the EPC (which membership of the Mercedes-Benz Club now gives yo access to) and it definitely shows 217, Left Hand Traffic. I checked two cars, my own CL500 and a CL600 supplied to me once when mine was being repaired; they both showed code 217.
 

television

Always remembered RIP
Joined
Mar 14, 2005
Messages
164,073
Reaction score
367
Age
89
Location
Daventry
Your Mercedes
2002 SL500, 216 CL500, all fully loaded
Isn't 618 for bi-xenons lefthand traffic?

617 for xenons lefthand traffic?

Yes that is correct just been into my new WIS so this does show that the code on mine was wrong. I have checked the read outs on both and they are the same,,, the UK WIS does not say where the car came from,,that is the last thing in this learning curve
 

whitenemesis

Senior Member
Joined
Dec 21, 2006
Messages
17,978
Reaction score
40
Your Mercedes
CLS55 AMG '05
Glad to hear it as MB have just updated my datacard to reflect my retro-fits and bi-xenons are 618 for LH traffic :)
 


Comand (Europe) Ltd are the leading specialists in supplying and fitting Comand, Linguatronic, Media interface kits, UHI phone, IPod interfaces and much more.
Top Bottom