Help with towing advice.

Oxfordeagle

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In respect of your question/problem - perhaps the following will help.

I too was more than concerned when I ordered in 2015 a new SE 220 E Class Estate as the handbook clearly said that the car was not allowed to tow - yet the dealer who sold me the car had had after fitted a towbar - Westphalia was the manufacturer.

If my memory serves me well, I was told that the E220 SE estates had no approval as the car had not been put through an "accident test" - the one that gives the number of stars for accident prevention - when towing. The vehicle in its many guises had but not the estate and that is why it categorically stated that you 'cannot tow with this car'.

The dealer subsequently confirmed (and I got this in writing as well) that if the car was involved in an accident due to something going wrong with the tow hitch, then Mercedes would not accept any liability. However - the towbar manufacturer's insurance would cover any responsibility / liability and maybe you need to speak to a towbar manufacturer and get their view on this - as indicated the towbar I had was a Westphalia.

I was also told that this was reason why no VIN details were supplied.

That car was replaced a few months back but it pulled 1550 kgs caravan for over 20,000 miles in three years all over Europe and the UK and always delivered. No matter what we asked it to do, it did - we even managed to often get over 30 mpg when towing.

My suggestion therefore would be to speak to a tow hook manufacturer and enjoy what was for me, a really excellent vehicle. In retrospect, I should never have sold it.
 
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And your insurance was invalidated every time you towed with it...
 

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And your insurance was invalidated every time you towed with it...

I believe the correct term is 'voidable', as in whilst an Insurance Company may resist paying any claim to the Policyholder, they are still obligated to meet Third Party Claims. Which includes injuries to persons travelling within the Policyholder's vehicle and possibly, loss of limb benefits to the actual Policyholder. As to any damage/repair/loss pertaining to the Policyholder's vehicle, then that is certainly the 'voidable' bit.

The term 'invalid/invalidated' infers that there was no cover in force and therefore, the Summary offence of No Insurance appears to apply, which is not the case.

On the other hand, the term 'voidable', when disputed, is a matter for the Civil Courts, and has no bearing on 'Points on Licence'/Disqualification, etc.

Whilst I concur with the context of what you posted, the terms are not interchangeable.
 

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Thank you- that’s a really clear explanation.
 
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Mercedes Benz have finally got back us! They called us Friday 16th February and said they "would look into" our complaint.

Well to add insult to injury they have just called us liars! After speaking to the sales guy at Colindale she is happy that the conversation about towing with the car we bought never happened . The sales guy, HP is his name, told her he never talked about towing with my husband. What a dirty liar you are HP!!!

Shame on you Mercedes Benz.
 

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Mercedes Benz have finally got back us! They called us Friday 16th February and said they "would look into" our complaint.

Well to add insult to injury they have just called us liars! After speaking to the sales guy at Colindale she is happy that the conversation about towing with the car we bought never happened . The sales guy, HP is his name, told her he never talked about towing with my husband. What a dirty liar you are HP!!!

Shame on you Mercedes Benz.
I'd be asking the the question about why they were so ready to have the car back if there was nothing wrong with it for towing and it hadn't been mentioned.
 
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I'd be asking the the question about why they were so ready to have the car back if there was nothing wrong with it for towing and it hadn't been mentioned.

My husband was so angry, and to be honest he's not a man that gets angry very often. He is just so fed up with the whole experience. He told the person on the end of the phone she was just ticking boxes and wasting our time. There was no point carrying on a conversation with this women as she had already made her mind up.

Shame on you Mercedes Benz!!
 

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My husband was so angry, and to be honest he's not a man that gets angry very often. He is just so fed up with the whole experience. He told the person on the end of the phone she was just ticking boxes and wasting our time. There was no point carrying on a conversation with this women as she had already made her mind up.

Shame on you Mercedes Benz!!
Definitely a very poor show on their part.
You were mis-advised on the car you wanted, mis-advised on an alternative car sold an unsuitable car as a result and they think its your fault. Very poor.
 

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Apologies for resurrecting this thread, but I’ve had my heart set on of buying an E Class, and any car I buy has to be able to tow my small caravan. After reading through this I was almost about to give up on the the car in question, a 2016 E Class E 220 D SE, but managed to find a photo of the VIN plate. As far as I can see there is a figure on the plate for permissible towing weight - which means I can legally tow with it, right ???
 

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your caravan can have a max weight (MPTML) of 1200kg ie max train weight weight of 4520kg minus max weight of car 2320kg
This assumes you've B+E on your licence ie passed your test after Jan 97. If you passed your test afterwards, your car's max weight & caravan's max weight can be no more than 3500kg (it's along those lines .... ;)
 

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your caravan can have a max weight (MPTML) of 1200kg ie max train weight weight of 4520kg minus max weight of car 2320kg
This assumes you've B+E on your licence ie passed your test after Jan 97. If you passed your test afterwards, your car's max weight & caravan's max weight can be no more than 3500kg (it's along those lines .... ;)
Thanks Emily’sDad ! I take it you meant to say “passed your test BEFORE Jan 97..... Which I did. By some way That’s really useful - we have a small Eriba caravan so I think we might just get away with it, I may yet get my E Class !!!
 

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Thanks Emily’sDad ! I take it you meant to say “passed your test BEFORE Jan 97..... Which I did. By some way That’s really useful - we have a small Eriba caravan so I think we might just get away with it, I may yet get my E Class !!!
Yes ... you spotted my deliberate mistake :rolleyes:
Your intended E Class will tow an Eriba without any problems at all ;)
 

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