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Discussion in 'General Mercedes-Benz Related Discussion' started by Altamar, Dec 28, 2018.

  1. Jimbo1959

    Jimbo1959 Senior Member

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    How so spurious? I am only practicing consideration for others. Yes my car has the park facility and yes I do use it, it’s the OP’s I am having a go at who don’t think or consider the possible consequences of their actions. I do not want to switch off my ignition/engine because the electric heated seats, blower motor and infotainment system all draw a fair bit of power from the battery and don’t work without the engine being on, plus, I’d rather be comfortable than freezing my ass off in the depth of a Scottish winter. I guess I’m just a “control “ freak


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  2. EmilysDad

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    I remember all those too but am 'only' 57 ;)
     
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    Not many at work call me that ... :D
     
  5. rorywquin

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    You are making an irrational argument for not using ILS.
    Can you not use position 5 - when parked, facing oncoming traffic, at night with your engine running & switch back to auto for the other 99% of the time you are using the car?

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    hear you. but where i can ,i am avoiding the throw away system that prevails today, i get you ref trying lights. my point, why bother, i am happy enough with what i have and dont really want to go LOOKING for something else i did not know i need.
     
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    When I first got the car I did too Andy but, I didn't like the fact that you could only override the system by switching the ignition/engine off.
    Basically as soon as you switch the engine on, the car decides what lights are required and when, if you had the switch on the off position the lights would still come on if the car decided the ambient light level warranted it.
    I like to be able to control and decide what the lights are doing when I want them to do it.
    I never forget to switch my lights on, but, as you said, "to each their own".
     
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    That choice is now being taken away by regulation. No more Off position. There is On or Auto now.
     
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    It is your opinion, that my arguement is "spurious," :-(of a line of reasoning) apparently but not actually valid", and irrational.
    You use and are happy to use the ILS system.

    I am no longer happy to use it because it removes an element of control which, I prefer to have at my fingertips. As I mentioned in an earlier post, I admit, I am a bit of a control freak.

    On my car you programme the operation of the lights with the onboard computer and they, as a result, come on, if the computer, upon checking the ambient light quality, deems it necessary, as soon as you switch on the ignition.
    If the light quality is such that the computer decides the lights should be on there is nothing you can do to switch them off, using any switches at all, you must switch off the ignition/engine to kill the lights.
    However, If the daylight is bright enough, they will auto cancel.
    This operational configuration can only be overridden by programming the onboard computer.
    This is what I was trying to explain. I thought it was a perfectly valid point.

    My light switch bears little relation to the figure you have posted however, that's mainly down to one function and positioning.

    I can, now that I have set the computer to do so, use my lights in the manner /fashion you have illustrated and explained and do so when I want to.
    I am in control, the lights do what I want them to, when I want them too. Ultimately, it is my choice.

    We are all individuals, with our own little foibles and ways of doing things, I could not say your way was spurious because that is your choice, and not mine.

    I feel I am experiencing deja vu, let's just agree to disagree, (again). Good day sir.
     
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    Thank goodness I won't ever be in the position, financially speaking, to buy a new car where, I can't switch something off. Regulation has gone mad.
     
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    No, it’s there to keep people safe from those who like to reprogram their vehicle lighting systems to act in a manner other than designed.

    I’m off to reprogram my ABS so I can get a bit more of a skid going when sideslipping onto the A14 ;) :D
     
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    I'm getting out of touch with what can be done to cars these days Craig, I didn't know that either of those functions could be "modified" :D

    I guess special tools (software?) are required? ;)

    Sideslipping?? is that the new term for drifting? o_O:D:D
     
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    And for the idiots that drive in the dark without lights.......
     
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    I assume you are still running 'round dial' instruments in your aircraft (assume the machine in the pic is yours) and would never buy a glass cockpit ;).

    PS what is it?
     
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    There is a button to "disable" ESP in my current and previous MB.

    Probably not it smart to use it but, if the driver wanted to be "in control" the button could be used. :)
     
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    That's partly thefault of the idiots that design cars such that the instrument lights come on with the ignition instead of the lights like they always used to. ;)
     
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    I guess we can always find someone else to blame instead of being responsible for what we do. ;)
     
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    I think that plays a big factor where cars in town set off without their headlights on. The street lighting can be good enough that you dont realise your headlights are not on because your brain is telling you the speedo is lit up so the lights are on.
     
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    its a rockwell commander 112tc.and no i wont be going for a glass cockpit .very happy with my instruments .only additions digital fuel flow ,transponder and gps otherwise all origional. watched a utube on harriers in falklands yest his glass cockpit went black at a most inconvenient moment, could have killed him .no thanks.....
     
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    I think the driver would more likely be out of control if they did that, you're probably right about the "not smart to use it," I ask you, who disables a function which helps the driver stay "in control"? Certainly not I.
     
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