How do I tell a Graz built ML

[Richard W]

Is there an easy way of telling a Graz built ML?

Thanks

R

 

[Malcolm Brown]

Yes, there is, but I can't remember the details. It is one or two of the digits in the VIN or on the options plate. A dealer would probably have a way of decoding it.

 

[Richard W]

Thanks Malcolm, the one toady was a shed - so I'm still car less.

Anyone seen one in your area? looking around £17/18k

R

 

[piestore]

ml

Hi Richard

What do you mean by "a graz built ML"?

 

[Richard W]

I seem to remember when the ML was launched they were all made in America. Then to increase capacity and address demand outside the US a line was opened at the Steyr plant in Austria, these vehicles I think have a better reputation for build quality (don't ask me how from the same parts!).

Does this help?

R

 

[Arnie]

if you do a search for "VIN" on the internet, there are plenty of sites that tell you how to decode the VIN numbers. I think that if the number starts with "W", that's germany (don't know for Austria) and I think that the US is digits "1","2","3" or "4". The next letter will probably be "D" for "Daimler-Chrysler".

 

[Richard W]

Thanks Arnie, I'll try that

R

 

[toady]

sorry, i've mentioned this on another posting but: www.bensoncars.co.uk has 2 top spec mls @ the mo. Worth a look...

 

[Arnie]

toady,

did you get your cars from Bensons?

 

[piestore]

ml

hi
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as nobody has seen fit to give me any info I can only assume you are looking for one not built in the USA. keep looking you won;t find one.

 

[toady]

unfortunately i have not yet bought a car from there but i hope to soon. They are some distance away but their prices are excellent and they do have a ****** good range e.g. db7, s/clk/slk/e, jag, range rover etc. helps me to get a feel for prices too, just dont expect rock bottom mileage unless stated.

 

[Dreamplayer]

This ML looks nice....

Find it here....


http://www.msenterprise.co.uk/_msenterprise.htm


Low miles too...




Dreamplayer.
'91 190E 2.0 Bornite,A class wheel trims
2002 BMW 318ci individual (for sale)

 

[Richard W]

hi
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as nobody has seen fit to give me any info I can only assume you are looking for one not built in the USA. keep looking you won;t find one.

Piestore,

Didn't you see my post about the Austrian plant? I had a feeling the 270s are built there - any ideas?

R

 

[Spike]

Toady wrote...

unfortunately i have not yet bought a car from there but i hope to soon. They are some distance away but their prices are excellent and they do have a ****** good range e.g. db7, s/clk/slk/e, jag, range rover etc. helps me to get a feel for prices too, just dont expect rock bottom mileage unless stated.
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I only thought it fair to point out that Toady is being rather conservative with his answer on this one.

Toady has been handing out advice rather freely recently and before someone takes his advice too literally, I think it only fair that Toady comes clean on this matter (like he has on other groups) so everyone can move on.

Over to you Toady/Obe1/tobyroland........

PS. The Sig needs to go too m8

 

[Arnie]

Piestore,

In answer to your question, the ML was originally only built in southern USA. More recently, as Ricahrd says, MB decided to produce the ones for Europe at a plant in Graz, Austria (formerly Styr Daimler Puch, but now part of the Magna empire), where they built the G-Wagens and now also the Jeep Cherokee (Daimler Chrysler). It's a very specialised plant with a long history in 4x4, 4x6 etc vehicles and the quality of fit and finish is said to be better than the US ones, which were originally supplied to the UK with the trip computer reading in US gallons!

 

[Arnie]

Toady,

I did take a look at Bensons and thet DB7 is really nice. However, while prices on their more down-to-earth Mercs and Beemers are about £3k to £4K less than dealers, their milages are all very high. If you look at the Merc website for used cars you can also find similar priced cars with similarly high mileage. Bensons are therfore a little misleading in that they compare their price for high-mileage cars with a dealer's price for a low-mileage/nearly new car.

I spoke to bensons on Friday regarding an estate and the chap admitted that their prices are not really cheap.

 

[piestore]

ml

HI Richard


'No soz didn't see your previous post. Must get eyes checked. To the best of my knowledge all ML,s are built in the states but I will make sure and place another post/