Hybrid electric the future, not for me!

[Oldspanners]

Been looking at this video from Dan

I think at best this system is a stop gap to make manufacturers look "green" and a lot of money in maintenance and repairs. A simple sensor buried deep in the battery pack fails at 33K kms.
I listened to a talk from Gordon Murray and he was of the opinion that electric wasn't the way forward but a internal combustion engine using hydrogen was the way for power, economy and cost.
At the age where it won't bother me from the point of ownership but I'm beginning to think holding on to a petrol engine will do me.

 

[A.J.]

At the age where it won't bother me from the point of ownership but I'm beginning to think holding on to a petrol engine will do me.

Me too

 

[John Laidlaw]

No doubt Hydrogen is the future , the technology has existed for a long time but the oil companies and associated service and equipment providers have been ....let’s just say reluctant - meantime I’m enjoying my PHEV, it ticks so many boxes personally

 

[Frontstep]

And how many times will owners be told "you need a new battery pack" it won't take a charge.

 

[A.J.]

And how many times will owners be told "you need a new battery pack" it won't take a charge.

I'm interested to learn how the Government are going to recover the lost revenue from combustion engine fuel when electric cars start to occupy a substantial part of the car buyers market

 

[Wearsafoxhat]

I wonder what will happen to the National Grid when workers / commuters return home at 1800, ish and plug in 10 million cars ready for the next days journey.


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[umblecumbuz]

A lot of toxic batteries to get rid of ... somehow.

 

[Oldspanners]

And how many times will owners be told "you need a new battery pack" it won't take a charge.

A lot, the car in the video had it gone back to the dealer would have had a complete new battery pack because the dealer doesn't open them. At best depending on the make they may be offered a reconditioned pack.

 

[sonic]

I have read so little positive about Hybrid Electric, & mountains of negative comments. I agree hydrogen is the way to go, but the oil industry has a massive clout which is not helping.
Looking to change a 10 years old SLK. A pre April 2017 250d is very attractive, £30 road tax & 50+ mpg.

 

[3146bj]

Before rushing off to support hydrogen to replace petrol/diesel, talk to somebody who works/has worked in the Dangerous Goods industry and learn about the hazards of storing hydrogen in comparison to petrol. The risks are so much higher that, at the moment, mass storage of hydrogen in retail sites, bulk storage and in accident prone vehicles is just impractical. Practically every road accident would result in a major fire and fatalities.

Count me out!

 

[Frontstep]

I'm interested to learn how the Government are going to recover the lost revenue from combustion engine fuel when electric cars start to occupy a substantial part of the car buyers market

Don't panic the satellites are already in the sky for pay per mile .

https://www.gsa.europa.eu/newsroom/news/galileo-and-egnos-easing-road-toll-interoperability

Mrs May ordered our replacement when our £1.2 Billion contribution to it was burned by our EU friends.

 

[LostKiwi]

You don't need satellites.
All it needs is a transponder in the car that reports the vehicle mileage to a sensor by the road. Every month - invoice in the post based on the last transponder reading.

 

[d215yq]

It's not a plug in hybrid, and perhaps not as super efficient on paper as the new ones (and Toyota over designed it and made a loss on every one sold) but the drivetrain on the Mk1 prius has proven a lot more reliable and long lasting than the diesels/petrols of its era.

All the taxis here are either diesel Dacias (cheapest purchase price and OK economy) or Auris/Prius/avensis hybrid (there is no restriction on any form of emissions here so they are buying because it makes sense to own and not because it's subsidised). Some of those have 250k kms on them and the taxi drivers like them and say they're incredibly reliable and they haven't heard of battery failures. I'd happily have one if I did mainly city driving, but I wouldn't want something like an MB C300h with an already over complex and unreliable (compared to Toyota atleast) ancilliaries with the added benefit of a 20 mile battery pack chucked in the back as an afterthought with some complex electronics to mate it altogether...

 

[LostKiwi]

Interesting article here:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-50841104