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I have only ever said that there are tyres made in China with well known brand names sold in the UK.

For some reason certain posters don't like these facts.

Are the tyres I suggested as a budget alternative to Jinju, Ling Longs Greenmax's as good as the best no, but then they are a third of the price and the factory they are made in manufactures tyres for well known brands.

It wasn't that long ago people fell about laughing at the thought of anything manufactured in China being any good clearly thats history.

Chinese tyre manufacturers are snapping at the heels of the established brands.

Many on here like Kumho they are made in China and sold here as well as other plants.


You presented your statement as many major well known brands are fitted as OEM in Europe, I can only guess at how long it took you to find a thread which just one instance 7&5 years ago of a mention of one Goodyear Tyre that is made in Germany and China (in limited sizes) as OEM, and even then ealeier in that thread the Goodyear contributor States they have taken legal action against the unauthorised import of other Goodyear tyres made in China as they DO NOT comply with EU regulations........that must say something at the very least!

I can only reiterate I have never seen an OEM tyre with "Made in China" stamped on the sidewall on a EU supplied vehicle, and I have seen many cars over the years, and photographed them from when they rolled off the transporter until each one was broken down into its component parts, weighed, logged and each part wired to competitor model display boards.......although I admit I did retire two years ago after 35 years in R&E so maybe the Chinese have made inroads since then......nah, not really! :grin:

It's been fun but this thread could go on until the Chinese really do supply all our OEM tyres.......and on that note ;)
 

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Here is the complete list of where all tyres are made. The country is the 2 figures after the DOT on the sidewall

http://www.carbibles.com/tyremanufacturercodes.html

An did you find the factory code on your Michelin's sidewall Malcolm? They have many plants dotted all over the globe, would be interesting to find out.

My company used to fit Hancook tyres to a few smaller models to split supplier bases but they were made in Hancook's Korean factories.
 

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You presented your statement as many major well known brands are fitted as OEM in Europe, I can only guess at how long it took you to find a thread which just one instance 7&5 years ago of a mention of one Goodyear Tyre that is made in Germany and China (in limited sizes) as OEM, and even then ealeier in that thread the Goodyear contributor States they have taken legal action against the unauthorised import of other Goodyear tyres made in China as they DO NOT comply with EU regulations........that must say something at the very least!

I can only reiterate I have never seen an OEM tyre with "Made in China" stamped on the sidewall on a EU supplied vehicle, and I have seen many cars over the years, and photographed them from when they rolled off the transporter until each one was broken down into its component parts, weighed, logged and each part wired to competitor model display boards.......although I admit I did retire two years ago after 35 years in R&E so maybe the Chinese have made inroads since then......nah, not really! :grin:

It's been fun but this thread could go on until the Chinese really do supply all our OEM tyres.......and on that note ;)


You really are making a fool of yourself with this,
walk into your MB showroom and Mercedes Benz will sell you a brand new car with Chinese tyres on it I have posted a link above i assume you missed it

http://www.tyrepress.com/2013/11/kumho-oe-for-b-class/

I have had one as a loan car which is what made me look.
I put the old link on you mentioned to show you how out of date you are.
 

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An did you find the factory code on your Michelin's sidewall Malcolm? They have many plants dotted all over the globe, would be interesting to find out.

My company used to fit Hancook tyres to a few smaller models to split supplier bases but they were made in Hancook's Korean factories.

My Michelins bought last week made in the USA :D
 

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Perhaps Mercedes reason for fitting Chinese tyres is so that they can easily slide off the road in the wet, and a write off.
 

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You really are making a fool of yourself with this,
walk into your MB showroom and Mercedes Benz will sell you a brand new car with Chinese tyres on it I have posted a link above i assume you missed it

http://www.tyrepress.com/2013/11/kumho-oe-for-b-class/

I have had one as a loan car which is what made me look.
I put the old link on you mentioned to show you how out of date you are.

Yes I saw your link, thank you.........one car line fits a Korean companies Chinese plant's tyre.......:shock:

The other link you posted lead to a thread in which a Goodyear contributor stated that Goodyear manufacture in a Chinese plant but the tyres are not imported to the EU as they do not comply with regs.

I still do not know of any major tyre manufacturers (Michelin, Goodyear, Pirelli, Dunlop) who supply chinese made tyres as OEM to EU made cars, there may be some but I have not seen evidence yet. I am sure it will eventually happen, but Mercedes supplying a B class with a Korean tyre made in a Chinese plant (owned by Kumho not a Chinese company) does not make a summer.....or was that a swallow? :D

Oh BTW good luck with your B class loaner next time

http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/cndy/2011-03/21/content_12199566.htm

But Kumho made a brave attempt at a very slick get out excuse

:D
 
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So Mercedes Benz selling a B Class with Chinese manufactured tyres doesn't satisfy you.
Volkswagen will sell you a brand new car with Chinese tyres on it
Never mind many of the others.
Bridgestone will sell you chinese manufactured tyres
Dunlop,

How well known do you want them ?

you wrote;

"I can only reiterate I have never seen an OEM tyre with "Made in China" stamped on the sidewall on a EU supplied vehicle"

I presume you will now accept that things have moved on and what may have been true years ago is not now.
 

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So Mercedes Benz selling a B Class with Chinese manufactured tyres doesn't satisfy you.
Volkswagen will sell you a brand new car with Chinese tyres on it
Never mind many of the others.
Bridgestone will sell you chinese manufactured tyres
Dunlop,

How well known do you want them ?

you wrote;

"I can only reiterate I have never seen an OEM tyre with "Made in China" stamped on the sidewall on a EU supplied vehicle"

I presume you will now accept that things have moved on and what may have been true years ago is not now.

Yes I read that MB B class has Kumhos fitted of course, as your link showed, I still have failed to see an EU vehicle manufacturer fit tyres from a major supplier (Michelin, Goodyear, Dunlop, Pirelli etc) made in China, and no, sorry I do NOT class Kuhmo as a major manufacturer, they may be the biggest in Korea but in the EU they are peanuts still, Kuhmo make some very good tyres of course otherwise MB would not fit them. But they are still made in a wholey owned Kuhmo factory in China and not subbed out to a Chinese manufacturer like Jinyu.

And even then it appears that Kuhmo have had problems with the "Chinese method" of quality control :D
 

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Yes I read that MB B class has Kumhos fitted of course, as your link showed, I still have failed to see an EU vehicle manufacturer fit tyres from a major supplier (Michelin, Goodyear, Dunlop, Pirelli etc) made in China, and no, sorry I do NOT class Kuhmo as a major manufacturer, they may be the biggest in Korea but in the EU they are peanuts still, Kuhmo make some very good tyres of course otherwise MB would not fit them. But they are still made in a wholey owned Kuhmo factory in China and not subbed out to a Chinese manufacturer like Jinyu.

And even then it appears that Kuhmo have had problems with the "Chinese method" of quality control :D


I ask this genuinely and if the answer is yes I will ask for all my posts to be scrubbed do you have a health issue ?

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"I can only reiterate I have never seen an OEM tyre with "Made in China" stamped on the sidewall on a EU supplied vehicle"

I have shown beyond any reasonable doubt that this happens with MB .

If you have not seen it fair enough but to deny it happens is frankly odd or to then introduce different manufacturers ?

Yet you continue, I am genuinely confused
 

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id never forgive myself if anything happened to my little girls just because i was too tight to spend a few extra quid on some decent rubber.

What the worst Pete that could happen, you might get 2 little boys the next time.
 

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The thing is a few extra quid does not always give the best tyre still there can't be many who thinks a thirty five quid tyre is going to be the best.

Which magazine are a good source of tests, I have some doubts about the car magazine ones who inevitably scuttle off to some manufacturers grounds.
 

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The thing is a few extra quid does not always give the best tyre still there can't be many who thinks a thirty five quid tyre is going to be the best.

Which magazine are a good source of tests, I have some doubts about the car magazine ones who inevitably scuttle off to some manufacturers grounds.

True, some of the best test are done in Scandinavia and Germany where the same car and track is used.
 

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Which, What Car, Auto Express, Auto Bild, EVO etc. I read them all then work out between the lines as to which tyre to buy. For the past few years I have been content with GY Eagle F1 Asymmetric 2.
 

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I ask this genuinely and if the answer is yes I will ask for all my posts to be scrubbed do you have a health issue ?

you wrote;

"I can only reiterate I have never seen an OEM tyre with "Made in China" stamped on the sidewall on a EU supplied vehicle"

I have shown beyond any reasonable doubt that this happens with MB .

If you have not seen it fair enough but to deny it happens is frankly odd or to then introduce different manufacturers ?

Yet you continue, I am genuinely confused

I stated I saw your link and agreed that the B Class (or some of them at very least) can be fitted with a tyre made in China.....did you not read that?

Yes I saw your link, thank you.........one car line fits a Korean companies Chinese plant's tyre.......:shock:

But why be so f*****g insulting with your snide comments?

I ask this genuinely and if the answer is yes I will ask for all my posts to be scrubbed do you have a health issue ?

Maybe it is you have the health (mental) issue?

Out of here, keyboard warriors need serious help........seek it!
 

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Well this is all getting a little silly, people saying if they crash it will all be the tyres fault because it was manufactured in the wrong place, personal insults!!!

Come on people, the original post was about a particular brand not if you think someone is mental or a tyre manufactured in a particular geographical location will be sub standard or the usual willy waving of "I only buy this brand because blah blah" and if you don't buy them you will crash in a blaze of glory and obviously it will be the tyre's fault not the driver driving according to the conditions!!!!
 

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The thing is a few extra quid does not always give the best tyre still there can't be many who thinks a thirty five quid tyre is going to be the best.

Which magazine are a good source of tests, I have some doubts about the car magazine ones who inevitably scuttle off to some manufacturers grounds.
I speak only from personal experience. I've driven (my own cars) on tyres made by linglong, Sava, stomil, Lee, India, at the budget end right through Dunlop, Michelin, Firestone, bridgestone, continental, pirelli, goodyear and probably a lot more that I can't remember.
My experience has been that some budget tyres are great but don't last very long. Others last well but are awful in the wet. Some are just terrible. But some are reasonable all round (kumho for example 20 odd years ago)
The jinyu tyres that were on my 203 for example. I could only fault them in the wet. Same with the linglong tyres on the 210. On the other hand when on Goodyear nct5 ( originally fitted to my car) pirelli p6000, Michelin energy, wet or dry barely made a difference to it.
I want decent grip wet AND dry, reasonable lifespan and reasonable price. I CAN get tyres for my car online for about £35 a corner. But why risk it when I can get a known quantity brand I've used and been happy with before for £41 a corner? At least then I KNOW what to expect.
 

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Also the debate was over whether or not a Chinese BRAND tyre would be as good as a 'well known' brand even if its MADE in china
 

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I stated I saw your link and agreed that the B Class (or some of them at very least) can be fitted with a tyre made in China.....did you not read that?



But why be so f*****g insulting with your snide comments?



Maybe it is you have the health (mental) issue?

Out of here, keyboard warriors need serious help........seek it!


You persistently denied the evidence, that points to either an understanding issue or blind obstinacy the above helps place you firmly in the latter camp most people would have said something along the lines of "things have moved on since I did it "
or "you learn something new everyday"
You now resort to thankfully deleted insults.
You rubbished my comments but when I proved them you still carried on thats a shame and uncalled for.
 

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