Job's Worth. - Why are they like this??

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I have just returned home from my nearest dealer, Medway Mercedes, and have found myself very frustrated. It is not my way to "name and shame", but on this occasion i am going to.

I went over there to order a new ignition barrel, keyed to my original key,  as the existing one is sometimes a bit sticky, and bearing in mind Andy's warnings on this part in the past, i decided to nip it in the bug before disaster struck.

So off i went to the dealer, armed with the knowledge that they would need ID as i had had a new barrel for my previous W124.

At the parts counter i am confronted with said "job's worth", who knows me!! i told him that i needed to order a new ignition barrel, and without prompting i gave him my chassis number, insurance certificate with reg number on it, picture type driving licence, and my Police warrant card, this as well as the vehicle being parked right outside the building with my wife in it.

His answer, "i need to see the log book", no amount of negotiating, pleeding, or general appeals to his common sense would budge him from this stance.

Now i ask you, would i reallly have gone there in a car registered to me, given him MY chassis number, and every personal detail that i posses, just in order to obtain an original lock barrel for MY car, only to fit it to someone else's car, in order to steal it?? WHAT PLANET DO THESE PEOPLE COME FROM??

As i have previously said, this guy at the parts counter knows me, my details are with the service department, as the car had some warranty work done by them only a few months ago. (This was another story of ineptitude that i could bore you for hours over).

The real pity hear is that they are now my nearest dealers, as the one in Maidstone that had been a Merc dealers since i was a child is now Mazda, and the outfit that has taken over from them does not stock anything.

The end result to this sorry saga, i walked out in disgust at "job's worths" total intransigence, and will NEVER deal with these morons again.
 

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I think the point here is the "Jobs Worth" is right, if he was to sell you the lock without the relevent paper work & the parts do end up in the wrong hands or your car is stolen you would very quickly be blaming MR Jobsworth.

You as a Policeman should know better than most that systems & procedures (no matter how silly) are put in place to protect all concerned.

Why not just go back with the log book & order the part.
 

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I think the point here is the "Jobs Worth" is right, if he was to sell you the lock without the relevent paper work & the parts do end up in the wrong hands or your car is stolen you would very quickly be blaming MR Jobsworth.

You as a Policeman should know better than most that systems & procedures (no matter how silly) are put in place to protect all concerned.

Why not just go back with the log book & order the part.
 
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Your are right, sometimes procedures can seem tedious, i have first hand knowledge of that. But the point you are missing, as i mentioned twice, The guy knows me!!
 
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Your are right, sometimes procedures can seem tedious, i have first hand knowledge of that. But the point you are missing, as i mentioned twice, The guy knows me!!
 

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Afraid I side with BJ here.  Rules is rules, and as an upholder/enforcer/maniplulator of rules I would have thought you would understand this!

If you nicked someone you knew (at the usual 33 in a 30 limit) and he didn't have his driving licence on him but did have his insurance, would you still give him an HORT1??  If 'yes' then you are as guilty as this guy, If 'no' you would be another copper that bends the rules!!

I've just sold a BMW 330d. The guys at the BMW garage know me well, and don't know I sold the car yesterday - using your 'but he knows me' arguement, I could go and get a new key, locking wheel nut adapter, alsorts for a car that is no longer mine!!
 

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Afraid I side with BJ here.  Rules is rules, and as an upholder/enforcer/maniplulator of rules I would have thought you would understand this!

If you nicked someone you knew (at the usual 33 in a 30 limit) and he didn't have his driving licence on him but did have his insurance, would you still give him an HORT1??  If 'yes' then you are as guilty as this guy, If 'no' you would be another copper that bends the rules!!

I've just sold a BMW 330d. The guys at the BMW garage know me well, and don't know I sold the car yesterday - using your 'but he knows me' arguement, I could go and get a new key, locking wheel nut adapter, alsorts for a car that is no longer mine!!
 

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Having obtained spare keys etc in the past, it seems that a log-book is necessary, beacuse a photocopy has to be sent from the dealer to MB in order to obtain the keys according to the number. My dealer has known me for over 20 years, but I still need to bring the required paperwork.

Nowadays, especially that the keys are the only real way to drive off with (steal) a car, I personally am glad of the extra security checks to order new locks and keys.

(Edited by Arnie at 4:01 pm on Nov. 1, 2002)
 

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Having obtained spare keys etc in the past, it seems that a log-book is necessary, beacuse a photocopy has to be sent from the dealer to MB in order to obtain the keys according to the number. My dealer has known me for over 20 years, but I still need to bring the required paperwork.

Nowadays, especially that the keys are the only real way to drive off with (steal) a car, I personally am glad of the extra security checks to order new locks and keys.

(Edited by Arnie at 4:01 pm on Nov. 1, 2002)
 

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Hi Dave

I bet you feel a lot better for having 'vented your spleen' - isn't this forum great!

It seems as though the jury is against you on this one though, and I figure after time has passed you will reflect differently.

Please please tell us about the warranty work SNAFU.

By the way, I have heeded the advice too and ordered a new barrel (matched to current key) from stealership here in Portsmouth - I am now into week 6 and still waiting!! (Really glad I have carried out a pre-emptive strike - just hope it arrives before it aint pre-emptive).

On a similar vein to the thread you started here David but not about cars (What planet et al......) I was in Waitrose the other weekend with she who must be obeyed and at the checkout the nice young girl, as she neared the end of the conveyor belt of goods we had deposited, - picked up a cabbage and said to my wife - 'Is this a cauliflower or a cabbage?' - ROFLFHO!!

Get back to the dealer Dave with your reg document - and get the barrel ordered!

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Hi Dave

I bet you feel a lot better for having 'vented your spleen' - isn't this forum great!

It seems as though the jury is against you on this one though, and I figure after time has passed you will reflect differently.

Please please tell us about the warranty work SNAFU.

By the way, I have heeded the advice too and ordered a new barrel (matched to current key) from stealership here in Portsmouth - I am now into week 6 and still waiting!! (Really glad I have carried out a pre-emptive strike - just hope it arrives before it aint pre-emptive).

On a similar vein to the thread you started here David but not about cars (What planet et al......) I was in Waitrose the other weekend with she who must be obeyed and at the checkout the nice young girl, as she neared the end of the conveyor belt of goods we had deposited, - picked up a cabbage and said to my wife - 'Is this a cauliflower or a cabbage?' - ROFLFHO!!

Get back to the dealer Dave with your reg document - and get the barrel ordered!

Regards
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Dave,
        I understand that it is necessary to send off a copy of the log book to validate issue of the barrel.
The storeman should have explained this to you.I suspect that he doesnt like members of your profession.
Order your barrel/parts from another dealer & you may find them to be much more helpful! I did & they were.

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Dave,
        I understand that it is necessary to send off a copy of the log book to validate issue of the barrel.
The storeman should have explained this to you.I suspect that he doesnt like members of your profession.
Order your barrel/parts from another dealer & you may find them to be much more helpful! I did & they were.

regards
Ernest Sidesman.
 
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There are a couple of points worth noting here as a result of the replies to my original post.

1 Norman, you are dead right, i felt much better after i had had a rant on here, but i hope that i don't suffer the same delay that your are experiencing, (i didn't the last time i had to order a barrel).

2 Ernest, you are right as usual, when i went to a different dealers this afternoon, the guy could not have been more helpful or courteous, he went to great pains to explain the new procedures that MB now insist on when ordering this type of part. If only the "job's worth" had bothered, instead of mithering on in his mono-syballic tone about the need for the log book.

3 Gary430, i'm not going to dignify your post with a response.dave elcome
 
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There are a couple of points worth noting here as a result of the replies to my original post.

1 Norman, you are dead right, i felt much better after i had had a rant on here, but i hope that i don't suffer the same delay that your are experiencing, (i didn't the last time i had to order a barrel).

2 Ernest, you are right as usual, when i went to a different dealers this afternoon, the guy could not have been more helpful or courteous, he went to great pains to explain the new procedures that MB now insist on when ordering this type of part. If only the "job's worth" had bothered, instead of mithering on in his mono-syballic tone about the need for the log book.

3 Gary430, i'm not going to dignify your post with a response.
 

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Why does www.*****.co.uk get blocked and BMW is allowed to stay?

Sorry for the profanity ... :)


(Edited by fuzzer at 2:58 pm on Nov. 2, 2002)
 

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Gary430, i'm not going to dignify your post with a response.

Why? too close to the bone?

Common courtesy doesn't cost anything - shame most of your colleagues don't realise this!
 

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type MBCLUB in uppercase then and it doesnt get blocked  ;)
 
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