Latest update re my C220 Majestic Beauty!!!!

[alexanderfoti]

Hydraulic lock of the engine I believe - cylinders full of water

Hmmm. I was going to say, on the video, the compression sounds a bit low....

These can sound like that, especially when laid up for a while, as lifters bleed down etc, but given its history there could be damage.

 

[NBurns]

At last. Video has uploaded:-

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

 

[alexanderfoti]

At last. Video has uploaded:-

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Second video sounds a bit better.

You need to empty the tank, that is water and diesel being mixed together. Did the hydro lock come from driving into water?

Once the tank is empty, get some fresh diesel in it. New fuel filter and make sure you have clean diesel at the filter.

 

[Tony Dyson]

I noticed your charger is set on a 'start' setting, what voltage is that outputting? anything greater than a charging voltage while your battery is connected to your car of c14.5v will not be doing your electronics any good at all!

 

[NBurns]

Second video sounds a bit better.

You need to empty the tank, that is water and diesel being mixed together. Did the hydro lock come from driving into water?

Once the tank is empty, get some fresh diesel in it. New fuel filter and make sure you have clean diesel at the filter.

That Was a brand new fuel filter!!! Are you telling me to replace that again then?



Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

 

[NBurns]

I noticed your charger is set on a 'start' setting, what voltage is that outputting? anything greater than a charging voltage while your battery is connected to your car of c14.5v will not be doing your electronics any good at all!

Okay. What i was doing was using the charger to give it a boost while attempting to start. From now on I will stop doing that then and just use the girlfriends charger to keep the battery charged up between testing it.



Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

 

[NBurns]

Second video sounds a bit better.

You need to empty the tank, that is water and diesel being mixed together. Did the hydro lock come from driving into water?

Once the tank is empty, get some fresh diesel in it. New fuel filter and make sure you have clean diesel at the filter.

Nope. The hydro lock was a combination of the car not being used since November last year plus rain water getting in via the injector holes. Once I realised this I then bought a cheap gazebo to keep the engine bay dryer.
Have I seriously screwed up a brand new fuel filter?!!



Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

 

[Tony Dyson]

Okay. What i was doing was using the charger to give it a boost while attempting to start. From now on I will stop doing that then and just use the girlfriends charger to keep the battery charged up between testing it.



Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

You can use boost, start and repair settings on battery chargers as long as you disconnect the negative post from the battery to the car chassis these settings can output anywhere between 16-18v.

 

[alexanderfoti]

I noticed your charger is set on a 'start' setting, what voltage is that outputting? anything greater than a charging voltage while your battery is connected to your car of c14.5v will not be doing your electronics any good at all!

It does seem to be on a high setting.

Nope. The hydro lock was a combination of the car not being used since November last year plus rain water getting in via the injector holes. Once I realised this I then bought a cheap gazebo to keep the engine bay dryer.
Have I seriously screwed up a brand new fuel filter?!!



Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Well, diesel doesn't look like milk, so you need to find the source of the horrible fuel. You need a sample from the tank.

If that's what's going into your filter, then yes it needs to be replaced.

 

[John Laidlaw]

I was also wondering the source of the fuel and the water contamination , that’s not even dissolved by the look of it

 

[NBurns]

I was also wondering the source of the fuel and the water contamination , that’s not even dissolved by the look of it

How do you mean by not even dissolved?



Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

 

[umblecumbuz]

The diesel shown is from the low pressure side of the system, before it's got a far as the high pressure pump, so this is basically diesel and water mixed by age and the action of the lift pump.

You can get away with re-using your new fuel filter (not ideal, but as it's new and you are watching the pennies, it is possible), by flushing fresh diesel through it.

Your next step - as Blobcat - is to drain the tank and refill with a generous quantity of fresh fuel, not just 5 litres .

Then you need to flush through the high pressure side as well. You can do this by cracking open an injector feed pipe once you have made sure that good diesel is entering the high pressure pump.

Then - wonder of wonders - your engine will fire up and run sweet as a nut!

 

[John Laidlaw]

How do you mean by not even dissolved?



Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Not consumed by the diesel effectively , so white

 

[Blobcat]

I was also wondering the source of the fuel and the water contamination , that’s not even dissolved by the look of it

Probably from the pump hoses, they can leak badly

 

[John Laidlaw]

Probably from the pump hoses, they can leak badly

Yup complete rubbish ! Sue the manufacturer

 

[alexanderfoti]

The diesel shown is from the low pressure side of the system, before it's got a far as the high pressure pump, so this is basically diesel and water mixed by age and the action of the lift pump.

You can get away with re-using your new fuel filter (not ideal, but as it's new and you are watching the pennies, it is possible), by flushing fresh diesel through it.

Your next step - as Blobcat - is to drain the tank and refill with a generous quantity of fresh fuel, not just 5 litres .

Then you need to flush through the high pressure side as well. You can do this by cracking open an injector feed pipe once you have made sure that good diesel is entering the high pressure pump.

Then - wonder of wonders - your engine will fire up and run sweet as a nut!

The filter medium won't deal with water and will break apart internally. I wouldn't chose to reuse if I had a choice.

You may as well flush the hp side by spraying the contaminated stuff through the injectors,some of it will end up in the tank via leak off anyway.

Opening the hp side to bleed is not ideal on CR and generally causes more problems than it solves.

 

[umblecumbuz]

The filter medium won't deal with water and will break apart internally.

Interesting, that.
Forgive me, but I thought that - as diesel can absorb water in storage - separating out any water in the diesel was part of the purpose of the fuel filter.

 

[John Laidlaw]

Interesting, that.
Forgive me, but I thought that - as diesel can absorb water in storage - separating out any water in the diesel was part of the purpose of the fuel filter.

Just particulates /solids I believe ...

 

[alexanderfoti]

Interesting, that.
Forgive me, but I thought that - as diesel can absorb water in storage - separating out any water in the diesel was part of the purpose of the fuel filter.

A small (less than 1%) amount of water will seperate out in the filter and will drop out of suspension in a filter designed with a water seperator, and will sit at the bottom of the filter.

With this amount of water, which seems to be visually the same as when a friend of mine swapped the coolant supply and diesel return lines on a VW golf.(that was fun) It seems to be emulsified as others have mentioned.

 

[umblecumbuz]

Just particulates /solids I believe ...

Think you'll find they're designed to separate out both impurities and water.
So - being non-technical - I'm presuming that the filter innards are built to cope with water without 'breaking apart internally'.

On my old boat with a diesel filter, I've removed more than half the contents before now, which have been dirty water. Maybe canister filters are made with different materials that break up more easily?